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Is this a violation of my friend(s) rights? - October 25, 2010, 12:43 PM

I have 3 friends who work for the Michaels Arts & Crafts in Stafford. These friends were made to sign a form that would not allow them to post anything negative about the company on the internet. Today they were given the option to sign the form or leave. I know Michaels isn't an ideal job and these are just college kids working part time and going to school too. I know more and more companies are doing things like this in their hiring contracts and it seems to bother me a bit. I just feel like it's a stepping stone for companies having to much control on what their employees do in their private lives. What is your guys/girls take on this?
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October 25, 2010, 12:47 PM

depends on how long...as long as they work for the company? then i think its not that big of a deal. I work for the Gov and handle confidential shit so they always have me sign non-disclosure shit, and more.

The way I look at it is that if im working for someone I plan on giving them my all, and my best, or im going to move on.

I aways say...flip it. Put yourself in the stores shoes, and ask yourself would you do it?


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October 25, 2010, 12:51 PM

lol do they feel the need to bash michaels? just sign it and move on
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October 25, 2010, 12:53 PM

Like Von said, sounds like typical language found in a non-disclosure agreement. I know from working for financial institutions, that these agreements are sometimes required by law (ie SOX)
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October 25, 2010, 12:54 PM

Wouldn't expect less from companys now a day's. people are stupid and friend there boss on facebook. If you post something negitive and your boss finds out you should be fired.
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depends on how long...as long as they work for the company? then i think its not that big of a deal. I work for the Gov and handle confidential shit so they always have me sign non-disclosure shit, and more.

The way I look at it is that if im working for someone I plan on giving them my all, and my best, or im going to move on.

I aways say...flip it. Put yourself in the stores shoes, and ask yourself would you do it?
Very reasonable. Would putting something negative about your boss be the same? In my memory the only negative stuff they post on their FBs is about their boss.
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October 25, 2010, 12:54 PM

Yes.
So long as I'm not divulging company info, trade secrets, or pricing information - I'm free to say what I want in whatever forum I choose given the information is not libelous.

Oh and as a general rule, I never sign a non-compete or a censorship clause unless there is a defined separation package in the employment agreement.

You may work for someone, but you don't want to give them too much power and leverage.



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October 25, 2010, 12:55 PM

Not a violation of their rights: they are not being forced to work there. A company has the privilege of requiring their employees to represent them in a positive light, unless the company does illegal things.

In which case, the postings would be covered under whistleblower laws and thus be protected speech.


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I think they should burn the place down.
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Like Von said, sounds like typical language found in a non-disclosure agreement. I know from working for financial institutions, that these agreements are sometimes required by law (ie SOX)
That would be the exception. SOX compliance is no joke.
And the financial industry doesn't play games at all.
Anyone I know who works in high finance, the minute they got past an associate level - all their Facebook, MySpace, and social pages VANISHED.



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Not a violation of their rights: they are not being forced to work there. A company has the privilege of requiring their employees to represent them in a positive light, unless the company does illegal things.

In which case, the postings would be covered under whistleblower laws and thus be protected speech.
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I agree with both of these posts.

You should always be careful what you post and who you allow to see it when it comes to facebook. You should also remember that forum posts come up in google searches so be careful what you say in places like this. Bitching about your boss on a place like .net can make the internet real very quickly.


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I don't think it can be enforced past job loss. But I'm pretty sure you could get canned for bad mouthing your employer even without a signed contract.
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