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Went To A Boxing Match, and a Hockey Game Broke Out. - March 20, 2012, 02:32 PM


I'm not a hockey fan, so forgive my ignorance on the matter, but how is that fighting is Hockey is not only allowed but seemingly condoned? No one is suspended or fined. No one is admonished. The referees do not interfere until someone is either knocked out or beaten to the ice and can't get up. Teamates do not make an attempt to break up the fight. Everyone stands around and watches. I don't understand.


Had this happened in the NBA or NFL fines would be handed out like jellybeans at Easter along with subsequent multi-game suspensions.


Moreover, how the hell do you start a brawl 2 seconds after the puck is dropped?



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Its what happens when you have real teams playing a real sport!
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Really? A choreographed fight = real sport?


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if you don't love fighting, you don't love hockey. It's a violent sport. Always has been. The NHL has chosen to ..... I won't say "embrace" it per se- they don't encourage fighting, but to severely punish something that has been at the root of the game for so long would be a bad idea.



And this is the Devils and Rangers you're talking about.
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I'm not a hockey fan, so forgive my ignorance on the matter, but how is that fighting is Hockey is not only allowed but seemingly condoned? No one is suspended or fined. No one is admonished. The referees do not interfere until someone is either knocked out or beaten to the ice and can't get up. Teamates do not make an attempt to break up the fight. Everyone stands around and watches. I don't understand.


Had this happened in the NBA or NFL fines would be handed out like jellybeans at Easter along with subsequent multi-game suspensions.


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Fighting is allowed in hockey because it has always been. The fighting is almost always between two enforcers. When it is not, it is between two in the same weight class, unless the smaller player initiates. They let them go until there is a clear winner, they end up on the ground, or someone gains a clear advantage and a serious injury could come of it.

Fighting is used for multiple reasons in a game. It is used for retribution for a hit on a star player or a cheap shot on someone. It is used as a deterrent for those actions as well. It is used as a momentum swing and a way to settle personal scores with each other.

As for a fight seconds in to a game. These two teams play each other 6 times a year in the regular season, 8 times a year in past seasons, see each other in the playoffs with some regularity, and are geographically extremely close(obviously). Bad blood doesn't end with the buzzer, it continues game to game and sometime shit needs to be settled.

I also think that the definite physical separation between spectators and athletes is why it is allowed. A lot less chance of malice in the palace when there is separation there.


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I'm trying to understand how those "choreographed fights" are any different than a boxing match, or mma?

The combatants agree to beat the shit out of each other beforehand. Then they do that.


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if you don't love fighting, you don't love hockey. It's a violent sport. Always has been. The NHL has chosen to ..... I won't say "embrace" it per se- they don't encourage fighting, but to severely punish something that has been at the root of the game for so long would be a bad idea.



And this is the Devils and Rangers you're talking about.
It would be like a Chicago Blackhawks game verses...well anyone lol


Also, fighting happens a lot less in the playoffs than reg. season because it really is about the sport, not all the endorsements, and victory dances.
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No cause for this fight. I'd rather 2 pissed off dudes fight halfway through the period. Seemed gay.


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Also, fighting happens a lot less in the playoffs than reg. season because it really is about the sport, not all the endorsements, and victory dances.
Actually it happens a lot less in the playoffs because the majority of the games are nationally televised, and because the stakes are much higher for the teams involved and the league as a whole.

The games are officiated differently in the playoffs. More of a let the boys play attitude. They keep the fighting to a minimum to keep the sponsors happy. They don't have many sponsors so they need to keep what they do have.


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Fighting is allowed in hockey because it has always been. The fighting is almost always between two enforcers. When it is not, it is between two in the same weight class, unless the smaller player initiates. They let them go until there is a clear winner, they end up on the ground, or someone gains a clear advantage and a serious injury could come of it.

Fighting is used for multiple reasons in a game. It is used for retribution for a hit on a star player or a cheap shot on someone. It is used as a deterrent for those actions as well. It is used as a momentum swing and a way to settle personal scores with each other.

As for a fight seconds in to a game. These two teams play each other 6 times a year in the regular season, 8 times a year in past seasons, see each other in the playoffs with some regularity, and are geographically extremely close(obviously). Bad blood doesn't end with the buzzer, it continues game to game and sometime shit needs to be settled.

I also think that the definite physical separation between spectators and athletes is why it is allowed. A lot less chance of malice in the palace when there is separation there.
+1. Devils hate the Rangers. It will never change. Just how Giants Fans hate the Jets and they play in the same STADIUM.

Or how the Steelers hate the ravens. and that will never change.


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