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What do you think? Vista, XP, or Leopard? - November 21, 2007, 11:33 AM

Obviously this is another opinion thread, had to put that in there since someone had no idea when I started the thread “What do you think? Blue rims…”… but yea anyways… what do you think about these OS’s thinking about getting myself a new desktop over winter. Even though I’m pretty sure Vista is out the door for me… I have nothing but rants, maybe someone can give me some raves. How about dollar for dollar…? If I go with Mac, with the iMac I want I’m looking at north of $3,000, can I get what a Mac has to offer in a PC for way less?
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if you decide to go mac, get an intel mac, you can have windows on it no prob.

PC gaming > mac gaming

PC design/graphics (adobe) < mac design design/graphics (adobe)
PC 3d rendering > mac 3d rendering

linux > windows
leopard > windows
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November 21, 2007, 11:41 AM

The answer to your question is No, especially since Vista blows.


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i dont know why peeps are on the neg for vista.

I will answer the posters question with that, i was just about to buy a mac pro and upgrade to leopard... however thanks to another member on this site, i got a free laptop with vista home basic on it..

Since it was free, it didnt have much memory. So i paid 100 bucks to upgrade the memory to 2gb and paid $80 to upgrade to VISTA home premium. I wanted aero display.

That being said, i use the laptop for internet browsing, itunes/iphone, DVD decrpting, email and holding all my digital pix with 100 GB usb connected external storage.
So I am not a PC gamer.

I can definately say i have had NO issues using VISTA for the above mentioned basic tasks. So i guess all the neg rap is for folks using VISTA for gaming.

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i liked the mac, but since it was free I am happy with my VISTA laptop.


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i dont know why peeps are on the neg for vista.
Because the typical Vista computer takes 2 minutes to boot? I watched a Vista laptop take 30 minutes to "shutdown". After it spent an hour installing updates. Those times aren't an exageration either, damn thing took most of the primetime tv shows I watch to do it. It's incompatible with 90% of the hardware XP is compatible with. There's like 14 fucking versions of it which is just stupid. It has about 1/4 of the features it was supposed to come with when Microsoft over hyped it five years ago. It prompted my girlfriend no less than 5 times with a "are you sure?" dialog when she tried to install iTunes. Nearly everything runs slower in Vista when in a heads up comparison with XP.

If you're spending over $3k on an iMac you should get kicked in the nuts. Get a Mac Pro and call it a day. The reality is, feature for feature, Macs aren't anymore expensive than their Dell counterparts. But that's when you're nitpicking features - for instance, Dell doesn't even sell a competitor to the iMac or mac mini, I'm not aware of any major PC retailer doing that. But, as always, $ for $ if you're going for lowest price build it yourself.
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You have a point, Alex. I just don't like the interface. It seems less intuitive than XP, and I don't see any advantages. Could be just a preference thing, but I'm not a gamer either. The last computer game I played was "Duke Nukem" on a Mac more than five years ago.

My Intel Mac with MS Office rocks everything I need it for, with great celerity too. Incidentally, it boots-up in under 20 seconds, shuts down in about 5 seconds. The best part is that it doesn't keep trying to sell me software.


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If you're spending over $3k on an iMac you should get kicked in the nuts. Get a Mac Pro and call it a day. The reality is, feature for feature, Macs aren't anymore expensive than their Dell counterparts. But that's when you're nitpicking features - for instance, Dell doesn't even sell a competitor to the iMac or mac mini, I'm not aware of any major PC retailer doing that. But, as always, $ for $ if you're going for lowest price build it yourself.
Its a pretty nice iMac, I don't mind dishing out the money if it's worth it. I want something that will be good for another 2 or 3 years without having to worry about upgrading and so on... so pretty much future proof, but we all know that's not possible with computers and technology.
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easy solution for the windows vista issue...lay XP over vista and re-install your drivers......nuff said.
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lol.. ok the "are you sure" question is god damn annoying!!
agreed after it did a windows update it took about 7 min to reboot.
other than a windows update the laptop boots and shuts down pretty quick.. < 2min

being an mcse weeny, i didnt think much about it b/c a number of XP pro's on a domain take a while sometimes booting up, shutting down doing updates etc for a miriad of reasons... mostly b/c a freaking big ass GP...

as originially stated, its user opinion. my experience with VISTA is on my own brand new laptop..so that could be the difference also...

unlike JP, i totally love the aero interface.. well maybe its b/c as usual microsoft copied UI features that the mac has.


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oops, i meant iMac not Mac book pro was what i was going to get before i got the free laptop.


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im still laughing at the "20 different versions" comment.

JP, you's a funny guy!


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im still laughing at the "20 different versions" comment.

JP, you's a funny guy!
Senyore Spud, you lost me. I don't recall saying that.
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Its a pretty nice iMac, I don't mind dishing out the money if it's worth it. I want something that will be good for another 2 or 3 years without having to worry about upgrading and so on... so pretty much future proof, but we all know that's not possible with computers and technology.
Historically, Apple computers have had longer lifespans than their PC counterparts. But I would venture that this is less now than that they've switched processor designs from RISC to CISC and have essentially joined the Mhz War, which is almost always the main reason people upgrade and Intel has already announced that they intend to recreate. Apparently they didn't learn anything from the Pentium 4 catastrophe.
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My Linux box takes less than 30 seconds from turn on to graphical login screen and all of ~10 seconds to shut off, which is why I complain. It could go quicker if I made the extra effort but that's sufficient enough. Vista, as I've found, takes so god damn long it's just not worth powering off. Better to kill a couple of trees and leave the thing in sleep/standby sucking down energy.
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Senyore Spud, you lost me. I don't recall saying that.
Still gracie for the compliment.


i went back, steve is the one that made the comment.. yer still funny jp.

steve, you are definately right about shutdown/bootup speed. Linux has that by far. unfortunately to the average user, Linux still isnt there yet as far as making it simple for non computer weenies to use. I peeped the latest fedora and its ability to do installs and autoupdates is getting close though..



Again to the original poster, if you got the $$ for the mac, i say go with that. If you are not a gamer and just want to use it for home use emailing, internet and other common things, you will be very happy with Apple. Plenty of folks here and the genius bar to help you with issues...


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VISTA=CRAP
If you have do a huge amount of changes to get VISTA work on your comp, then you probably dont need it. You pretty much have to have a balls out machine in order to take advantage of all the stuff Vista offers. Even though most people, I know hate Vista either way. I personally own a hand-built custom gaming machine, that I put together. I still wouldnt put Vista 32 or 64 bit on my machine, and I was given a free copy of it.


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