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When Breaking Into A House For Fun Goes Wrong - November 27, 2012, 08:38 PM

This man was playing no games, especially with the girl. Yikes.

'They didn't deserve to die': Outrage after popular students are found murdered in man's basement after 'they robbed his home on Thanksgiving'


  • Bodies of Haile Kifer, 18, and Nick Brady Schaeffel, 17, found day after they were shot during break-in
  • Byron Smith, 64, admitted to killing the teens during police search
  • Minnesota law allows people to use deadly force when protecting their homes - but prosecutors claim he used more than necessary
  • Smith charged with second-degree murder 'after telling police he shot more times than necessary because Kifer laughed when his gun jammed'
By Lydia Warren and Associated Press
PUBLISHED: 12:39 EST, 26 November 2012 | UPDATED: 19:19 EST, 26 November 2012

Friends and family have expressed their outrage over the deaths of two popular students shot by a homeowner while they robbed his home - as he revealed he fired 'more shots than he needed to'.

The bodies of cousins Haile Kifer, 18, and Nicholas Brady Schaeffel, 17, were found in Byron Smith's basement in Little Falls, Minnesota on Friday - the day after they were shot dead on Thanksgiving.
When police arrived at his home after reports of suspicious activity, Smith, 64, confessed to shooting the teenagers repeatedly and stashing their bodies after they broke into his home, authorities said.
On Monday, he was charged with second-degree murder and police revealed he told them he fired more shots than necessary after his gun jammed and Kifer laughed at him.
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Killed: The bodies of cousins Haile Kifer, 18, (left) and Nicholas Brady, 17, (right) were found stashed in the basement of a man who claimed the teenagers had broken into his home on Thanksgiving

While Minnesota law stipulates people are allowed to use deadly force when defending their homes, relatives, friends, police and prosecutors claimed Smith reacted too drastically by killing them.

'A person has every right to defend themselves and their homes, even employing deadly force if necessary,' Morrison County Sheriff Michel Wetzel said. 'Circumstances of this case however, led deputies to believe that Smith went beyond that point.'
And as he was charged on Monday, his intentions to shoot the teens dead became clear.
In custody: Byron Smith was arrested after admitting to police he had killed the teens a day earlier


In a criminal complaint, Smith said he was in the basement of his home when he heard a window breaking and footsteps. Fearful of other recent break-ins, he shot Schaeffel when he came into view.
When the teenager tumbled down the stars, Smith shot him in the face as he lay on the floor, looking up.

'I want him dead,' the complaint quoted Smith as telling an investigator.
He dragged the body into his workshop and then sat in the chair, the complaint said. When Kifer began walking down the stairs, he shot her and she fell down the stairs.
He tried to shoot her again with his rifle, but the gun jammed and Kifer laughed at him, the complaint noted.

'If you're trying to shoot somebody and they laugh at you, you go again,' Smith, 64, told investigators, according to a criminal complaint filed Monday.
He then shot her several times in the chest with a .22-caliber revolver, dragged her next to her cousin, and with as she gasped for air, fired a shot under her chin 'up into the cranium'.
'Smith described it as "a good clean finishing shot",' according to the compliant, and acknowledged he had fired 'more shots than (he) needed to'.
Smith said he left the bodies in his home overnight before calling a neighbor to ask if he knew a good lawyer. He later asked the neighbour to contact police.





Missed: Friends and teacher expressed their shock at deaths and described Haile as a popular role model




Joker: Friends also remembered Brady as an out-going student who loved to make people smile

A prosecutor at Morrison County District Court on Monday morning called Smith's reaction 'appalling'.
'Mr. Smith intentionally killed two teenagers in his home in a matter that goes well beyond self-defense,' Morrison County Attorney Brian Middendorf said at the hearing.
Friends have taken to a memorial Facebook page for Kifer and Schaeffel to vent their anger about the deaths. Others spoke out at a vigil for the youngsters on Sunday night.
'They were just really great people,' friend Rachel Stauffer, 15, told the Minneapolis Star Tribune. 'They could make anyone laugh.'
Carlee Davich, who coached Kifer in swimming at school, added: 'She was always happy. She had a way that just made everyone happy. A lot of the swimmers and divers looked up to her.'

Scene: Smith's home in Little Falls, MN has been burglarized eight times in recent years, his brother said

Pain: Crystal Shaeffel, 27, cries after walking up the driveway of the home of Byron David Smith in Little Falls, Minnesota where her brother Nick Brady was shot and killed on Thursday

Emma Schmidt, a fellow classmate at Little Falls High School, said Kifer was talented and well-liked and 'everyone's wondering' what she was doing in Smith's basement.
Further insight into the lives of the cousins was given by Brady's sister, Crystal Shaeffel, as she visited Smith's home and spoke with his brother.
'They were 17 and 18 years old, and didn't need to die,' she told Bruce Smith.
'That all depends on your perspective,' he responded, referring to a series of break-ins his brother had endured. In one in October, thieves stole $10,000 worth of guns and electronics, he said.
But Shaeffel insisted that her brother had no need to turn to burglary, as he made good money working for their father's tree-trimming business.
She added that her cousin, who had undergone treatment for substance abuse, could have been after pills from the home.

Remembered: At a candle-lit vigil on Sunday, Rachel Brady speaks about her brother Nick to the crowd

'Yes, she had an addiction problem and stuff, but that doesn't mean she deserves to get murdered at 18 years old,' Shaeffel said. 'I understand they came there to rob them, or whatever, but shoot them in the shoulder and call the cops.'

On the Facebook page, friends agreed that the shootings were too severe.
'It doesn't matter what they were or weren't doing there,' Mike Boulley wrote. 'They were KIDS that didn't deserve to die. Defending your property against armed burglars is one thing, gunning down two unarmed teenagers is just inexcusable.'
Logan Ayres added: 'It's hard to see such nice people lose their lives to something that could of been so easily taken care of instead of murder. R.I.P. nick and halie you will be dearly missed.'
Smith, 64, a former government employee who reportedly worked in security for the U.S. State Department, was arrested on Friday and is being held on $2 million bail.

Support: Friends on a memorial Facebook page have asked whether the appropriate force was used


According to his friends, Smith said that he had didn’t go to police immediately after the shooting because he panicked about the deaths.

'He was very traumatized by what had occurred and didn’t know who to call or what to do and that is very sad that the whole thing even happened,' Kathy Lange told KSTP-TV.
His brother, Bruce Smith, said that this was the latest of eight burglaries in recent years.

Byron Smith said that he suspected that the two had been responsible for at least some of those past robberies.
Neighbours told the Star Tribune he kept to himself, but they complained that he regularly shot guns on his property and said they were concerned children playing nearby could be hurt.


Read more: Family's outrage after star students were found murdered in man's basement after he claims they robbed his home on Thanksgiving | Mail Online
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November 27, 2012, 08:42 PM

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Dont want to get shot dont break into someones house. No sympathy at all here.
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"She was such a role model... such a lovely, innocent young girl..."

Sounds like a great role model.


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November 27, 2012, 08:59 PM

Dude sounds like an asshole, and perhaps a bit deranged. If his home actually has been broken into 8 times in recent years as was reported there is more to this story than meets the eye. Perhaps he was a popular target with the local youth?

Being an asshole is not a crime. Breaking into someones home is. Did he use excessive force? Yup. Was he within his rights (no matter how wrong it may seem) to do so? Hmmmm... that's a tough one.

One thing is for sure. He ain't quite all there. Only a nut job would tell the cops what he told them. He might as well of finished with "and I got a rope you can use for a noose in the garage"


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November 27, 2012, 09:05 PM

Well, there is using force....even deadly force. Heck, empty the clip if you like and are freaked out. I can understand and live with it.

But to walk up, put the weapon under the girl's chin and pull the trigger essentially blowing her brains out? Nah. That passes beyond self defense even to me.

That being said. Do I feel particularly sorry for these two kids. Not really. I doubt they broke in to bake the guy a cake. Reap what you sow and all of that.

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November 27, 2012, 09:15 PM

I guess the catch is self defense and execution.

Shooting the unarmed boy is well within his rights. walking up and shooting his face off.... execution.

shooting the chick as she walks down the steps is well within his rights. switching guns and unloading in her chest, then the kill shot under the jaw into the brain... execution.


He should have just had them sit on there knees and shot them in the back of the head. As it stands....dobt either of them can have a open casket funeral.

I am biased. As a kid I broke into mental heath wards, all three of my schools, storage rooms, neighbors houses, cars.

Never to steal...some times to bang chicks out, sometimes just for the fuck of it...bored ass teenager.

Not saying I was right...but my life could have ended between age 12 to 18 for doing the same thing. Ive been chased, had guns pulled on me by security while breaking in.

Anyway...No one...at least not silly teenagers deserve to die in such a horrible way.

If this was anyone's on here sister/brother cousins.....im sure the reply's would be different.


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Being an asshole is not a crime. Breaking into someones home is. Did he use excessive force? Yup. Was he within his rights (no matter how wrong it may seem) to do so? Hmmmm... that's a tough one.

One thing is for sure. He ain't quite all there. Only a nut job would tell the cops what he told them. He might as well of finished with "and I got a rope you can use for a noose in the garage"
Admitting that you intentionally used a 'killing shot' to finish an incapacitated person sounds like a crime to me. I'm all for blowing away mofos who break into your home, but once there is no imminent threat, I'm pretty sure your obligation is to get to safety and call the police.

I don't have much sympathy for these teenage mutant ninja pill-poppers, but it sounds like the homeowner stepped way beyond the line. Unfortunately, I don't think he could argue that he was afraid for his life once the intruders were laying on the ground with a couple bullet holes in them already.

So this guy presumably spent the rest of Thanksgiving and that night with two dead bodies in his basement because he didn't want to bother the police? Yeah, maybe a bit cuckoo.

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Well, there is using force....even deadly force. Heck, empty the clip if you like and are freaked out. I can understand and live with it.

But to walk up, put the weapon under the girl's chin and pull the trigger essentially blowing her brains out? Nah. That passes beyond self defense even to me.

That being said. Do I feel particularly sorry for these two kids. Not really. I doubt they broke in to bake the guy a cake. Reap what you sow and all of that.

As for djkouza. If you are into necrophilia....wow. You are one sick fuck.


Like I posted...all break ins are not necessarily for stealing. Maybe if he was like a hermit...and the place look empty...they broke in to have some kissin cousin fun.....i did


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If they had been shot in the leg they would have probably sued and took the guy to the cleaners. The way he ended them definitely says something is wrong with this person's thought process though.


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"The law doesn't permit you to execute somebody once a threat is gone,"

Mr. Smith intentionally killed two teenagers in his home in a manner that goes well beyond self-defense," Morrison County Attorney Brian Middendorf said after Smith appeared in court Monday morning. Bail was set at $2 million.

Minnesota sentencing guidelines call for a range of roughly 21 to 30 years in prison for a person convicted of a single second-degree murder count.


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Brady's sister, Crystal Schaeffel, told the Star Tribune that Kifer had stolen prescription drugs from her home before. Little Falls police records show Crystal Schaeffel reported a theft Aug. 28, but the department said the report was not public because that investigation was continuing and because it named juveniles.


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