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2003 GSXR 1000 Brake Fade - July 8, 2009, 09:32 AM

I am not looking for information on bleeding, better pads, fluid etc.
I am pretty sure my problem is with the stock calipers on the gsxr.
http://fastdad.wordpress.com/2006/09...-fade-problem/

The above article is why I say this and is exactly what I experience.

Until coming across this article I was looking for a Brembo Master Cylinder to help solve my problem.

Seems this guy (on an 05) went with a yamaha caliper from an R6 to solve his/my problem.

Anyone out there have any first hand experience with something like this who can tell me if the yamaha caliper will fit on my 03?
Am I going in the right direction to replace my suzuki caliper with a yamaha one?

It is a little scarey coming into turn 1 and your lever goes halfway to the throttle before anything starts to happen! Even at my slow ass pace...


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check to see if ur pads n rotors arnt glazed


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check gixxer.com .... im sure there is a thread on brake conversions


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Yes it will work - you will just need to machine caliper spacers. The monoblocs are money.


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check to see if ur pads n rotors arnt glazed
hey Jwzelibor,
My bike has done this since I bought it and when I was on the street it didn't bother me so much. I have replaced the pads with HH pads and scuffed up the rotors a bit to see if it helped but nothing.


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"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security."
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Yes it will work - you will just need to machine caliper spacers. The monoblocs are money.
Man, I didn't want to hear last part unless by money you mean awesome!


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your the machine man ..... build it !


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your the machine man ..... build it !
It's easy - I could do a set on the lathe.

And yes, by money I mean awesome. It's a good upgrade.


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check gixxer.com .... im sure there is a thread on brake conversions
Will do, thanks. Maybe they can tell me the proper spacing needed that Nudist mentioned.


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I took the anti-squeal springs out of my calipers.
My pads squeal a little bit but no more fade. Lets a lot more air through the caliper.
If it works for my fat ass...


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I took the anti-squeal springs out of my calipers.
My pads squeal a little bit but no more fade. Lets a lot more air through the caliper.
If it works for my fat ass...
Wow, thanks Steve! I can't tell you enough Thanks!


Now I just have to figure out how to accomplish it! LOl.


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Wow, thanks Steve! I can't tell you enough Thanks!


Now I just have to figure out how to accomplish it! LOl.
Very easy.
Just remove the pads. The spring (the metal plate at the rear of the caliper should come right out if it doesn't fall out.
Re-install pads with out the plate.
You're done!


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Very easy.
Just remove the pads. The spring (the metal plate at the rear of the caliper should come right out if it doesn't fall out.
Re-install pads with out the plate.
You're done!
thanks again Steve, this will be done before it is riden another mile!


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Very easy.
Just remove the pads. The spring (the metal plate at the rear of the caliper should come right out if it doesn't fall out.
Re-install pads with out the plate.
You're done!

that is some good tip Steve


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I am not looking for information on bleeding, better pads, fluid etc.
I am pretty sure my problem is with the stock calipers on the gsxr.
http://fastdad.wordpress.com/2006/09...-fade-problem/

The above article is why I say this and is exactly what I experience.

Until coming across this article I was looking for a Brembo Master Cylinder to help solve my problem.

Seems this guy (on an 05) went with a yamaha caliper from an R6 to solve his/my problem.

Anyone out there have any first hand experience with something like this who can tell me if the yamaha caliper will fit on my 03?
Am I going in the right direction to replace my suzuki caliper with a yamaha one?

It is a little scarey coming into turn 1 and your lever goes halfway to the throttle before anything starts to happen! Even at my slow ass pace...
And just to be clear, the 05 and up bikes use a radial master cylinder. It is made of cast alum and is known for having fade issues.
The 03-04 uses a standard master cylinder and isn't as prone to fade issues.
Removing the plate to allow more airflow usually solves the issue.


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