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Bad stator... opinions on options. - April 12, 2012, 07:25 PM

I knew this day would come....


So, backstory on the 2009 1125R charging system.

In 2008, folks were complaining about system not charging enough. Namely because they A.) were putting tons of dumb harley-esque accessories on em, and B.) they were puttering around at low rpm ranges.

So, for 2009, harley put a higher output stator in the bike....

And they burn out quick. 6-8k miles seems to be the norm. They get too hot.

Anyways, mine is dead. I have 3 options:

1) Buy an 08 stator and rotor. Expensive if new, and hard to find used.

2.) Buy the kit from EBR that includes the stator, rotor, and cover from the new 1190RS. Much improved system, expensive as fuck. 900 bucks.

3.) Get my fried stator rewound from Rick's Motorsports Electrics or Custom rewind. Both places charge about 150. Then, I add to that another 175 (after core) for the improved rotor modification service from EBR, which helps spray oil onto the stator and keep it cool.



I'm leaning toward option three... people are reporting good results with the EBR rotor mod. It's also less expensive than the new system.

Thoughts?


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April 12, 2012, 07:31 PM

I think 3 would be your best bet!


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April 12, 2012, 07:33 PM

Agree with going with a custom wound stator if the company has a good rep. If you don't NEED the high output they can put less winds on it and and/or use heavier wire to make it more robust by reducing heat output.


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April 12, 2012, 07:39 PM

I went with option one last year. Got a used stator and rotor from a totaled 08 from ebay for $240 before the first batch of rewinds began to fail and the prices started of the used 08 parts began to climb.

I got them from pinwall_cycle_parts. I would contact them to see what they have.


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April 12, 2012, 07:40 PM

You realize you jinxed it by talking about it when we were at your house the other night, I believe the exact words were "yeah the stators on a lot of them blow, but mine has been good so far!"

If you need any help at all let me know.
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April 12, 2012, 07:46 PM

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Agree with going with a custom wound stator if the company has a good rep. If you don't NEED the high output they can put less winds on it and and/or use heavier wire to make it more robust by reducing heat output.
It's these guys: Rick's Motorsport Electrics

I read some bad things about custom rewind's response times and communication, so i don't believe i'll try them. Ricks came highly recommended from a local racer.

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I went with option one last year. Got a used stator and rotor from a totaled 08 from ebay for $240 before the first batch of rewinds began to fail and the prices started of the used 08 parts began to climb.

I got them from pinwall_cycle_parts. I would contact them to see what they have.
Yeah. I don't see anything on ebay but I'll try calling them tomorrow

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You realize you jinxed it by talking about it when we were at your house the other night, I believe the exact words were "yeah the stators on a lot of them blow, but mine has been good so far!"

If you need any help at all let me know.
Yep.

Fuck me, right?

I may take you up on the offer to help once the parts get here. The bad part is, i don't think i'll be able to make it happen before the ACC! I was really looking forward to it!


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April 12, 2012, 07:53 PM

Didn't know there was a company by that name. I was speaking in generic terms.


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April 12, 2012, 07:54 PM

Ah, gotcha.

It's a good thing I decided not to sell it. Had i sold it to someone and the stator crapped out on them right after, that would be a dick move


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April 12, 2012, 07:57 PM

Any options to replace with an alternate bikes equipment?


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Any options to replace with an alternate bikes equipment?
There are rumors that a RSV1000R stator will fit. Used one costs about the same as rebuilding mine. And, with the flawed design, will likely happen again unless I also get the rotor mod done.

Or, stator/rotor/cover from the new 1190rs.... at 900 dollars! :-S


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Bummer.


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April 12, 2012, 08:03 PM

Yep. Price of entry, I guess. Could be worse.

I think i'll go with option 3. Unfortunately, that means I will miss the ACC this month.

Maybe i'll see if they'll let me coach instead.


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April 12, 2012, 08:29 PM

Is option 3 reliable? If people on Buell forums are happy with this fix, it sounds like the best option.

I guess the good thing about stators going bad is that they die a slow death. If it dies somewhere on the road, you can pull fuses to the lights/etc, bump start it, and that will at least get you home.

What is ACC?
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April 12, 2012, 08:36 PM

^ ACC cornering clinic. Held at Quantico unless I'm mistaken...



Another vote here for option 3... and you have my number, gimme a shout if you need a hand.
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April 12, 2012, 08:52 PM

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^ ACC cornering clinic. Held at Quantico unless I'm mistaken...
In that case, he can charge the battery at home and bring a charger to the clinic if there is an outlet around....

A long time ago, I did a track day with a burned out voltage rectifier... put the battery on the charger between sessions.
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