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Broken chain, part 2 - Pics for Fitz and the next problem.
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Broken chain, part 2 - Pics for Fitz and the next problem. - August 28, 2012, 10:53 PM

Fitz here are your pics, hope they help
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So here's the next part of the story -
I get the replacement for the sheared master link and go out to do the work.
Busted link not coming out.
Take chain off bike and go to shop.

Everybody is stumped, no body has ever seen this happen before. This master link is from Bike Master but that shouldn't matter as sizes are standard and the shop has used these links in these chains uncounted times before. The pins in this particular ml seem a bit too thick but not enough to have been noticed at installation. As near as anyone can figure out the pins seem to have almost 'welded' them selves into the link. Both pins frozen = sheared link. Dave had to use a breaker to get the pins out.

Suzuki has a 5 day back order on an ml so the guys are checking around to get me one faster.

Now here's my next problem -
I have to get the sprocket cover off to put the chain back and here's the new problem. One of the bolts in the cover isn't moving. Since it's the one set down into the housing it's the hardest to get to. I can't seem to get the socket onto the bolt head enough to really grab it.

Anyone got any tips? If I don't get back on my ride soon my head is gonna explode.
Besides, how many people are gonna be happy when I get out on my bike and I have less time to post?


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August 29, 2012, 07:57 AM

a) it seems there is some rust in the second pic: there was most likely a crack in there for some time, possibly from new

b) there is no such thing as a bolt that won't move. Buy some WD40, soak the whole area around the bolt with it and let is sit for a couple of hours. Next put the hex tool (or whatever tool you would use to get it out) in it, make sure it's seated well and hit said tool with a hammer, it will brake any oxidation and help get it loose.

c) if everything else fails you don't necessarily have to take the pinion cover off to install a new chain, you can simply push it trough slowly and manually make the pinion spin until is cycles through. Or, BUT BE CAREFUL OF YOUR FINGERS, set the engine kill switch to off (so engine doesn't start), and use the starter motor with bike in 1st gear to have the pinion grab and pull the chain on itself SLOWLY, then just help it get out the other way. If you are not very handy and comfortable, don't try this: i've seen what happens to fingers that end up between a chain and a sprocket. Not pretty...


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unintentional accidental

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I know my sprocket cover bolts were ridiculous to get off and back on. They almost felt cross threaded, but I think it's mostly just wear/tear/rust. If you hadn't taken the chain off and it was still on the front sprocket, then you could use the master link on the new chain (don't put on sideplate yet) and link it to the old chain and pull it through until its around the front sprocket.

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I know my sprocket cover bolts were ridiculous to get off and back on. They almost felt cross threaded, but I think it's mostly just wear/tear/rust. If you hadn't taken the chain off and it was still on the front sprocket, then you could use the master link on the new chain (don't put on sideplate yet) and link it to the old chain and pull it through until its around the front sprocket.

Ask me how I know about chain work, hahaha.
You, sir, need to stay well away from any chain work.


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c) if everything else fails you don't necessarily have to take the pinion cover off to install a new chain, you can simply push it trough slowly and manually make the pinion spin until is cycles through. Or, BUT BE CAREFUL OF YOUR FINGERS, set the engine kill switch to off (so engine doesn't start), and use the starter motor with bike in 1st gear to have the pinion grab and pull the chain on itself SLOWLY, then just help it get out the other way. If you are not very handy and comfortable, don't try this: i've seen what happens to fingers that end up between a chain and a sprocket. Not pretty...




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shit, put it in neutral let get it in groove and push it with a larger screwdriver.
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Got a better quality socket set and got the bolt out, no problem. The 7mm socket from the cheap set I bought just wouldn't seat on the head. Ya' get what ya' pay for.

Fitz - let me know if the pix are good enough or if you need a set emailed somewhere. If you don't mind I'd like to know how it works out in the classes.


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. . . . so get that helmet cam! . . . . . . Because the D-K Effect is an STD .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning...3Kruger_effect

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This is what happens when weak minded adults allow children to make decisions. You get stupid shit like this.
unintentional accidental

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September 5, 2012, 08:23 AM

Those pics will work.


Honestly, looking at them, I think it was just a defect in materials. It doesn't look like the kind of breakage you'd expect from poor maintenance or over-tightening. Crazy shit.

Again, good job doing post-ride inspections. Had you not noticed it, it could have become a catastrophe


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