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Clutch and shift problems - June 28, 2012, 03:20 PM

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I have two problems with shifting. Sometimes when the bike is hot I can't get it to go into neutral at stoplights. Huge PITA to hold the clutch in at stoplights. Read to adjust the primary. Should I tighten the primary or loosen it to alleviate this? There is a bolt/adjuster IIRC on left side of bike. Actually it won't go itno any gear stopped, have to push it hard as hell. Primary oil has been changed to the synthetic v-twin stuff

Other prob is the clutch is only disengaging like 90% at a stop in 1st. It stop for the most part but can still feel it wanting to pull the bike a wee bit. Would this have anything to do with the CRGs being on the lowest setting for my midget hands? Or do I just need to adjust shift cable where it meets the lever?
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June 28, 2012, 03:34 PM

Sounds like your clutch cable is stretched (not fully disengaging clutch) and needs to be adjusted. I am not familiar with your bike, but there is probably two adjustments: One at the Handlebar/Lever, and One at the Engine.

If so, adjust the engine one first, then the handlebar one.


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June 28, 2012, 03:37 PM

Looks like there is an inline cable adjuster.

see page 1-20 in this pdf:

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June 28, 2012, 03:42 PM

Holy shit how'd you find that! I been googling badweb for a while. I have the service manual to, but nothing to figure out how to fix the specific problem. Thanks!!!
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June 28, 2012, 03:54 PM

Let us know if that fixes it; i've worked on plenty of bikes, and this problem is common.

*Its Probably worse when warm because the RPMs are slightly higher, the cable is warmer and stretches a bit more, and the hot oil isn't allowing the clutch to slip as much as the cold oil..


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Clutch plates are warped causing them to drag. If it's that buell use dynamite and record the explosion. Become famous on youtube.

LOL, kidding - Clutch cable adjustment if you've not ever adjusted it is the likely culprit (as mentioned above) - not only the cause of the dragging but also the hard shifting/finding neutral as well.


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Clutch plates are warped causing them to drag. If it's that buell use dynamite and record the explosion. Become famous on youtube.

LOL, kidding - Clutch cable adjustment if you've not ever adjusted it is the likely culprit (as mentioned above) - not only the cause of the dragging but also the hard shifting/finding neutral as well.
+1...what he said...draggy clutch=impossible neutrals...
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June 29, 2012, 08:38 AM

Thanks guys, I will adjust the clutch cable. Hopefully that knocks 2 birds out with one stone..or one adjustment! Ya'll think I need to adjust the primary to or unnessesary with clutch adjustment?
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I would just start with the control cable adjustment.


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June 29, 2012, 11:04 AM

If it's an older/original clutch cable then I'd recommend buying a new one.

I had a clutch cable break on me 3 hours from one once, not cool.


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If it's an older/original clutch cable then I'd recommend buying a new one.

I had a clutch cable break on me 3 hours from one once, not cool.
Damn..so no shifting!!!

I will have to replace it. Barnett has some nice looking aftermarket ones to.
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Disengaging problem fixed with clutch adjustment and primary fluid changed, thanks!

Now to test if getting into neutral at stop lights is still a problem...
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1st do not buy an aftermarket cable for that bike. Get the OEM one.
2nd adjust at the primary cover 1st. You tighten the screw with a flat head screw driver till it bottom's out, this will be easy turns with almost no pressure, and then back it out 1/4 turn. Then adjust the cable at about half way up the cable. It will be infront of the motor. Then adjust if you have one at the bar. Also use 10/40 syn oil in primary. No need for the thick stuff.


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