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did Rotella change their name for syntheic? - July 23, 2010, 07:43 PM

im here at walmart and I can't find my rotella T! Did they change the name to Rotella T6 synthetic 5w40?


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T6 is synthetic. T5 is dino/synth mixture. T triple is regular dino


I got that straight off of the Rotella site. Which I googled. You're welcome.


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SO smarty pants....Use the T6?!?!


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I believe that T9 is the super motoGP synthetic which is what you want to get


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You want the T6.


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T6 synth... should be dark blue. Get 10w-40 or 5w-40.


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T6 is synthetic. T5 is dino/synth mixture. T triple is regular dino


I got that straight off of the Rotella site. Which I googled. You're welcome.
It's unfortunate but in this country, due to lawsuits and bullshit, oil classification is fucked and misleading.

T6 is dyno oil. It's a group III oil which is heavily refined dyno oil, that is allowed to be branded "synthetic" because of a lawsuit between Mobil and Castrol.

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In the late 1990s, Castrol started selling an oil made from Group III base oil and called it SynTec Full Synthetic. Mobil sued Castrol, asserting that this oil was not synthetic, but simply a highly refined petroleum oil, and therefore it was false advertising to call it synthetic. In 1999, Mobil lost their lawsuit. It was decided that the word "synthetic" was a marketing term and referred to properties, not to production methods or ingredients. Castrol continues to make SynTec out of Group III base oils, that is highly purified mineral oil with most all of the cockroach bits removed.

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All of those oils you listed, are in fact dyno oil. Although the performance of each, relative to each, is in the order you listed.

A "real" synthetic group IV PAO oil might not work well in a bike with a wet clutch however because it's going to be so damn slippery. So T6 may still very well be the way to go, but I still think it's important to make these decisions with your proverbial eyes open.

Mobil's Delvac ESP is a true group IV manufactured synthetic in comparison.


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i have a ? does anyone here buy oil for their street bikes at walmart?? why do you buy it there and not at bike shops? n what brand,,, i have a 2005 r6


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A "real" synthetic group IV PAO oil might not work well in a bike with a wet clutch however because it's going to be so damn slippery. So T6 may still very well be the way to go, but I still think it's important to make these decisions with your proverbial eyes open.
As long as it doesnt have friction modifiers making it "energy conserving" you should be fine. Also look for oil that has "MA" or "MA2" on the bottle, that specifies its designed to work in motors where the engine and transmission share the same oil, and is wet clutch safe. Some of those diesel oils carry that rating such as the T6, not sure about the Delvac oil tho.

Personally I run Amsoil, but I get it at dealer cost.
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As long as it doesnt have friction modifiers making it "energy conserving" you should be fine. Also look for oil that has "MA" or "MA2" on the bottle, that specifies its designed to work in motors where the engine and transmission share the same oil, and is wet clutch safe. Some of those diesel oils carry that rating such as the T6, not sure about the Delvac oil tho.

Personally I run Amsoil, but I get it at dealer cost.
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If you can run Amsoil in a bike, which is clearly a group IV oil, than the base itself isn't too slippery for a wet clutch.


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A lot of people do. Diesel truck oils are common to use, but you need to read the ingredients aka the "fine print". As MXRider pointed out, stay away from any oil that is "energy conserving".

If you really want to know what you're getting, you need to do your homework, as they almost never put the base stock oil group on the bottle. Group III oils are good, group IV oils are excellent.

Personally, I've been running Repsol motorcycle oil, not because it's any better, but because the majority of people out there don't know any better and don't understand. If I can honestly say I've been using overpriced Repsol oil in my bike, that will be a warm fuzzy if I ever go to sell it. That's also the only reason I pay shops to do the maintenance intervals that I'm more than capable of doing myself. Just something to consider.


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yea i know a lot people that know how to do it them self but take it to a shops and i think some shop dont use the oil they say they are


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If you're worried about a shop's honesty, I wouldn't use that shop. Try to get to know the people that work there, if they want to blow you off, blow them off. You'll be much happier at a shop that has people you know and like turning the wrenches.


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Thats where I always buy my oil...


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