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found this attached to my oil plug - November 3, 2014, 08:52 AM

So was doing my oil change yesterday and found this. Any idea what this could be. Should i be concerned? Its smooth and hard. Bike is a 2012 gsxr 600 with 12k miles, mix of street and track riding. Always changed my oil after 4 trackdays or 2500 miles.

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let me know when you go to part it out. thanks


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November 3, 2014, 09:01 AM

did it drain out of the pan?
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November 3, 2014, 09:07 AM

Was attached to the magnetic plug
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November 3, 2014, 09:10 AM

Looks like a valve retainer clip, yes I would be worried.


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November 3, 2014, 09:11 AM

Valve keeper or valve guide, perhaps? Yeah, you need to start digging around that motor before something explodes (if the damage has not been done already).


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November 3, 2014, 09:27 AM

Hmmm, is this not odd given how low the miles are and new the bike is? Is this something that may be covered under warranty ( i have no idea what the manufacuturers warranty is and cant remember if i bout extended warranty or not)

I had a minor lowside at the track, im wondering if that had anything tondo with it? Ive done beaver and a few wv rides since then, with no change in performance at all.

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Hmmm, is this not odd given how low the miles are and new the bike is? Is this something that may be covered under warranty ( i have no idea what the manufacuturers warranty is and cant remember if i bout extended warranty or not)

I had a minor lowside at njmp in july, im wondering if that had anything tondo with it? Ive done beaver and a few wv rides since then, with no change in performance at all.


manf warrantys are typically 1 year...if its a valve keeper and it made it from the head all the way to the bottom of the oil pan that whole motor prob should taken apart seeing that isnt the whole keeper so the rest of it in in there somewhere...sucks big time...


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November 3, 2014, 09:48 AM

You are incredibly lucky if only one keeper jumped from a valve. Pull the valve cover, do all the same steps that you would to adjust your valves, and take a look. I would not ride that bike again (or even start it) until I knew exactly what happened in that motor.


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FYI - I just googled for it and I'm 99% sure that's a valve keeper, which means one of your valves is being held up by only 1.... awesome luck that you found this before it went boom.


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November 3, 2014, 10:01 AM

Definitely looks like a keeper, has the valves ever been out, valve job or any motor work?

I never seen one come out from factory but have seen them come out when valve train not assembled correctly, or professionally, keepers not seated, checked, etc.

Dont turn motor over at all, pull valve cover off and you should see 2 keepers per valve. Also, most likely the other keeper is floating around somewhere and the motor is ready to drop a valve, which would cause all kinds of damage.

Have it checked out before you even turn the motor over at all, dont try adjusting the valves, dont even turn it over manually.
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November 3, 2014, 10:05 AM

It is a valve keeper. And yeah, it means you have one of two things happening:

1. A set was accidentally dropped into the motor and hasn't damaged anything inside you engine spinning through it at speed.

2. One of your valves has lost it's valve keeper and is about to drop and contact your piston. At speed.

In either case it's worth digging into the engine to be safe.


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November 3, 2014, 10:06 AM

A similar thing happened to a previous bike of mine, fortunately nothing happened, but it came from the service techs at Colemans FC dropping it into my engine and not telling me about it. I found it shortly after when I changed the oil and found it like you did.

Definitley don't start it until you figue out where it is missing from.


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November 3, 2014, 10:10 AM

Heres a typical keepers



Here is where you want to check each valve to see both keepers
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November 3, 2014, 10:50 AM

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