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At GMU Fairfax - Help Starting My Bike? - November 24, 2014, 12:16 PM

Wasn't sure if this was the right place to post it, but figured I'd give it a shot

CBR 600 F4i got me to campus today, and started up, but I turned it off to adjust my earplugs, but then it died. Dim lights, FI wouldn't turn over, and couldn't bump start it. I had the stator replaced recently, so that shouldn't be the issue.

Really frustrated about the whole thing and would like some help honestly.

Any thoughts or anyone in the area that'd be down to help me out? I'll buy you a case of beer!


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November 24, 2014, 01:26 PM

sounds like your battery is not charged.

how long was it sitting before starting it today?

I had this issue on my carbed ZZR600. It didn't take much to drain the battery.

Can you push start it? Any hills near by?
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November 24, 2014, 03:14 PM

push start that bitch.. put it in second gear.. run like bolt, drop the clutch and fly away


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November 24, 2014, 03:38 PM

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sounds like your battery is not charged.
how long was it sitting before starting it today?
I had this issue on my carbed ZZR600. It didn't take much to drain the battery.
Can you push start it? Any hills near by?
About a week or so. Nothing terribly long. That's what was surprising. Maybe the cold weather wrecked it.

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push start that bitch.. put it in second gear.. run like bolt, drop the clutch and fly away
I tried. Ran it with the button held, nothing turning over.


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I've got no immediate help for you but I picked up one of these for my cbr1krr, which can be unhappy about starting in the middle of winter).
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If you still need help around 8pm tonight I'll be passing by on my way home from work. Sounds like either you battery isn't holding a charge, or you charging system isn't working.


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I've got no immediate help for you but I picked up one of these for my cbr1krr, which can be unhappy about starting in the middle of winter).
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I'll check that out. Thanks for the recommendation.

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If you still need help around 8pm tonight I'll be passing by on my way home from work. Sounds like either you battery isn't holding a charge, or you charging system isn't working.
I ended up having my brother come pick me up, so I'm not stuck there. Thanks though!


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I tried. Ran it with the button held, nothing turning over.
No button.

Key on, put the bike in neutral, then run. Jump on, kick it into 2nd gear and drop the clutch.


Works better if you can have it in 2nd all along, and just hold the clutch in, then drop it when you get going ~10 mph... but that's tough to do without a hill.
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No button.
Key on, put the bike in neutral, then run. Jump on, kick it into 2nd gear and drop the clutch.
Works better if you can have it in 2nd all along, and just hold the clutch in, then drop it when you get going ~10 mph... but that's tough to do without a hill.
Damn, that makes sense. I thought I had seen someone do it on youtube with the button, and after my first run down this hill I wasn't about to try it again.

Good to know going forward though. Thanks man.


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Works better if you can have it in 2nd all along, and just hold the clutch in, then drop it when you get going ~10 mph... but that's tough to do without a hill.
This is how I do it, though on my Ninja 250 I leave it in first. I've heard a lot of people recommend 2nd gear as well.

Largewill, which parking area is your bike in? (I'm assuming it's still there, but hopefully it isn't.)
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This is how I do it, though on my Ninja 250 I leave it in first. I've heard a lot of people recommend 2nd gear as well.

Largewill, which parking area is your bike in? (I'm assuming it's still there, but hopefully it isn't.)
It's in Shenandoah. There are a few people that leave there bikes all the time (I guess for on campus students? I'm a grad student so the whole commuting thing is a little strange). I think it should be good for a while if worst comes to worst. Are you at Mason?

I was just running with the clutch in and pushing the button. So get it up to speed, and then just drop the clutch and it'll turn on? Even without the starter being pushed?


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I was just running with the clutch in and pushing the button. So get it up to speed, and then just drop the clutch and it'll turn on? Even without the starter being pushed?
You are basically starting it without the electric starter, so the button isn't necessary. Jumping on before dropping the clutch is also important.

Do not turn it off after you get it going. I've seen people bump start a bike, then stop to say "Hey guys look what I did!" and then have to do it all over again.


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So get it up to speed, and then just drop the clutch and it'll turn on? Even without the starter being pushed?
Correct, no need to push the starter button when bump starting the bike. I've always done it with the bike in gear, hold in the clutch and run alongside the bike. Then hop on once you have some momentum and just dump the clutch, the bike will either fire up or attempt to fire up. Having the bike on a slight hill helps a lot.

Did you replace the stator with a new one or a used one? Sounds like it could still be a charging issue. I had similar issues on my old Ninja and it ended up being the regulator/rectifier that went bad and was causing charging issues.
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You are basically starting it without the electric starter, so the button isn't necessary. Jumping on before dropping the clutch is also important.
Do not turn it off after you get it going. I've seen people bump start a bike, then stop to say "Hey guys look what I did!" and then have to do it all over again.
Haha will do. Good to know all this stuff going forward. I thought I knew how it all worked, but it was kind of like the I knew the knowledge but had never applied it. I was afraid if I dropped the clutch it would just stop moving and both the bike and myself would just go spilling

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Correct, no need to push the starter button when bump starting the bike. I've always done it with the bike in gear, hold in the clutch and run alongside the bike. Then hop on once you have some momentum and just dump the clutch, the bike will either fire up or attempt to fire up. Having the bike on a slight hill helps a lot.
Did you replace the stator with a new one or a used one? Sounds like it could still be a charging issue. I had similar issues on my old Ninja and it ended up being the regulator/rectifier that went bad and was causing charging issues.
The stator was replaced with a new one (I had it done at Brooks Cycle), so I'd think it was new. I'm not sure when the previous owner replaced the battery, and I didn't have it on a tender the past couple weeks with the cold weather. Figure it would be a good place to start since the lights were dim, and the tach needle wouldn't even fire up.


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