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New Tires, Q? - August 19, 2016, 11:25 AM

Soo Im in need of a new front, and Ive been soo disappointed in the wear of the Metzler M5/7s that Im willing to toss a rear with 3K miles left in it. The front is soo bad now that any minuscule alteration in the pavement yanks the bike out of line. Honestly these tires have tossed me out of ever considering Metzler ever again. My hardware might be a contributing factor.

So is there a difference between the Pilot Road 4, and the Pilot Road 4GT?

I see a set for $340, looks like a steal, any better deals out there?
PILOT ROAD 4 GT TIRE SET 180/55ZR17 73W REAR AND 120/70ZR17 FRONT | Discount Moto Tires

Thoughts, opinions?

08Z1000 used mainly for commuting, with the occasional knee drag.

Also I would be willing to sell the good rear for like $50, or some really good beer, or wine.


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August 19, 2016, 12:50 PM

I haven't checked around on prices but I thoroughly enjoyed the PR4's on my Z1000. Never once did I lose confidence in them.


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I loved my last PP, and the Metzlers stick like glue... Till they dont, and you are stuck with 5 broken ribs, and a shattered collarbone, not saying it was the tires, but Ive ridden out a lot of step outs, and at 20MPH.... I prefer the feel of Michelin and wanna try the roads.


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August 19, 2016, 03:00 PM

I didn't even notice the 'GT' variant. Those of which I cannot speak for.


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August 19, 2016, 03:01 PM

From bmwmoa--

Pilot Road 4 for all-around sport touring use
Pilot Road 4 GT has a stiffer casing with a patented new technology for motorcycle tires that delivers the stability you need for heavier GT-class bikes while riding solo, two-up or with luggage, and the comfort you desire
Pilot Road 4 Trail for adventure touring bikes ridden exclusively on the road


Sounds like the GT is not a suitable option for the average supersport/naked.


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August 19, 2016, 04:06 PM

What if the rider was 300 lbs?


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August 19, 2016, 07:33 PM

GT definitely has a stiffer carcass. I have the PR4s on an FJR and didn't go with them. On most bikes not necessary
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August 19, 2016, 09:40 PM

Doing it again, id buy the sport touring tire. $10 more and I perceive it will last longer too. The PR4 is an excellent rain tire. Held up well at the track too


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August 20, 2016, 07:49 AM

I've read good things about the PR series, but I can personally vouch for the Pirelli Angel GT. Lasts a long time, even through multiple track days (I did 4 on mine before I sold the bike). A set is a bit cheaper than the PR4 @ Revzilla.
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The PR4 is popular with pretty much everyone that has run them so I assume there is good reason for it. I like to buck trends so I went with the Dunlop Roadsmart II's for street use and have zero complaints, especially at $250.00 a set.


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August 20, 2016, 12:47 PM

All, thanks for the input, and Dark thanks for the research, I will got with the standard PR4, and not the GT


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August 20, 2016, 10:59 PM

Hell, the non GTs are only $300...


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September 13, 2016, 12:05 PM

Got the PR4s spooned on this weekend, pressure was set at 32/34 f/r. But looking at Michelin's website they recommend 36/42, same from Kawi, seems way higher than I am accustom to.


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Sport touring tires generally are designed to operate at a lower temperature working range than sport tires. Using low pressures just over heats them and can make them greasy quicker if being run hard for an extended period. Try around 36/38 cold and see what you think.

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September 13, 2016, 12:59 PM

I've been running 36/40 in the PR4s on my cbr1krr. They've got great traction although I never ride at 9/10ths or more now. I think I've got about 10k miles on them and they still look pretty new. The front PR2 on my versys has something like 22k miles on it. It's ready to be changed but I just haven't wanted to use the tire changer in the heat. I've got the changer mounted to the floor in the shed and it's like a hot box in there.
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