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Sliders vs. no-cut sliders vs. race railz - August 14, 2009, 01:33 PM

Ok, so I had a crash last month on my 04 CBR600rr in which one slider totally broke off and the other side held up and got ground down. They were the diamond powersports LED sliders... yeah I know

So the race railz doesn't look like its going to mount on the frame snugly and will require lots of modification to my fairings to get on.

I have a friend that had a newer CBR and the frame slider bolt went through the engine of his, thus totalling his bike out. I am thinking of going back towards the frame slider route, just with nortmal ones this time.

How about the no-cut frame sliders? I have heard some negative things about these of being worthless. Anyone have experience with the no cut sliders?


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the problem with no cuts is:

they use an adapter/ spacer to move the slider

not a bad thing, but it can bend/ break on impact depending....better than nothing, right?

the most protection would be the rails


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the problem with no cuts is:

they use an adapter/ spacer to move the slider

not a bad thing, but it can bend/ break on impact depending....better than nothing, right?

the most protection would be the rails
Until you get your leg stuck under it.
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All depends on how you crash, imo. They all have downsides.


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August 14, 2009, 02:22 PM

i was really pissed when my damn near $70 no-cut vortex slider with base snapped completely off at the bolt on a simple low side and left my swing arm slider to do all the work - fail, but yay for no fairings. No damage to the engine though from the bolt snapping.

You can search youtube for some demos and go from there. IMO race railz seem like they offer the best overall protection and keep the bike high enough off the ground to promote more of a slide rather than a slide, grip, and pole vault from having regular frame sliders....if the race railz require more work, then so be it - next time u go down, u'll appreciate them.
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Until you get your leg stuck under it.
bike or rail is about the same depending, I've seen pics of ppl get stabbed by their rearsets...


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here's some rails for ya....



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August 14, 2009, 02:54 PM

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All depends on how you crash, imo. They all have downsides.
Exactly. Some crashes no cuts will be fine, others they won't. I've heard stories go both ways on no cuts, seen a few bikes end up just fine after a wreck and others the bracket breaks. But either way it is better to have something that will hopefully save your bike some damage.

I did not want to cut up the fairing so I ended going up with some high quality R&G racing no-cuts on my 600rr and hopefully I'll never have to use them!


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I've had two pairs of No cuts frame sliders on my bike and ALL have broken off, never did their job. I still have one of the bolts snapped off in my fairing mount.

I completely agree with Oneway, racerailz is the way to go, sure more work, but what is an extra hour of work vs. several hundreds of dollars getting new fairings and such.
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race railz > regular sliders > no cut sliders
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race railz > regular sliders > no cut sliders > no sliders


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No matter what I get for a new bike this winter its getting a set of race railz.


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Kevin, are you forgetting that the no cut sliders is what totaled my bike after it put a gaping hole through the engine block?


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IMO race railz seem like they offer the best overall protection and keep the bike high enough off the ground to promote more of a slide rather than a slide, grip, and pole vault from having regular frame sliders....if the race railz require more work, then so be it - next time u go down, u'll appreciate them.
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No cuts look good, and can do their job depending on what kind of carpet you fall on.

Regular sliders are a lot better than no-cuts, and easier to work with compared to race railz.

Race railz offer great protection (just ask the Turkish crash dummy) but are a PITA when you have to work on the bike.

Choose the devil you want to work with.
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Kevin, are you forgetting that the no cut sliders is what totaled my bike after it put a gaping hole through the engine block?
I didn't know they were no cut sliders. I know that with your year CBR, they no cut sliders goes towards the back of the bike. But with my year, the bracket aims upwards to poke through the vent.

I did remove the old broken slider last night and that bolt was bent, being tough to remove, but it didn't snap.


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