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Sweet no turns/brake lights (929rr) and the fuse is still good :banghead:
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Sweet no turns/brake lights (929rr) and the fuse is still good :banghead: - February 15, 2011, 09:08 AM

So it is as the title states, I was out riding about a week ago, everything was working well. Approximately halfway through the ride I noticed that when I went to switch my turns on that whichever direction I chose would simply kill the turn signal and nothing would happen until I deslected that turn signal at which point the turn would return as a running light.

After this i looked up the fuses, on the 929 the turns/brake are on fuse C. I popped out fuse C and it was fine, i replaced it anyways... still broken, so i swapped around a fuse i knew was working... still broken.

I can upload a wiring diagram later, could it possibly be that my turnsignal relay is bad? would that foul up the brakelight as well? or is this a wiring issue in which case im going to be waaaaaay pissed.


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The more i think about this the more I am starting to think this may be a grounding issue... any thoughts?


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have you done any recent wiring or light/signal changes? I'd remove the tail section, turn the bike on (not start...just on) and turn the signal on. Start moving the harness to see if you get intermittant connection.


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Double check the fuse's. Cracked fuse's can cause problems and not be blown. also take apart the switch housing and make sure everything works and is connected.


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have you done any recent wiring or light/signal changes? I'd remove the tail section, turn the bike on (not start...just on) and turn the signal on. Start moving the harness to see if you get intermittant connection.
Nothing recent, I have wired up an integrated tail with the appropriate resistors. That had been working for several months. I have since disconnected the turns to troubleshoot the brakelight, which is currently my main concern as its dangerous as hell to drive in traffic without one.

but I will jiggle everything around again tonight.


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Double check the fuse's. Cracked fuse's can cause problems and not be blown. also take apart the switch housing and make sure everything works and is connected.

I played round-robin with the 10A's in the fusebox to see if it was a fuse issue, it should have caused issues as soon as i moved it around. (I also threw a new one in and tried again)

I was thinking the switch too as these are known to be faulty, but would a bad switch effect both the turns and the brake light?


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I played round-robin with the 10A's in the fusebox to see if it was a fuse issue, it should have caused issues as soon as i moved it around. (I also threw a new one in and tried again)

I was thinking the switch too as these are known to be faulty, but would a bad switch effect both the turns and the brake light?
Nope I would bet it is your aftermarket lens assy. Those are known to crap out real quick.


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February 15, 2011, 11:37 AM

I live in leesburg and could try to give you a hand trouble shooting if youd like. Have you pulled out the ol' multimeter to see if you are getting voltage to the tail? you can also probe the fuses to verify that they do in fact have continuity. You can also check your switches to make sure they are functioning correctly.
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Nope I would bet it is your aftermarket lens assy. Those are known to crap out real quick.
Hmm, I have a spare non-smoked tail. I could try swapping that in.


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I live in leesburg and could try to give you a hand trouble shooting if youd like. Have you pulled out the ol' multimeter to see if you are getting voltage to the tail? you can also probe the fuses to verify that they do in fact have continuity. You can also check your switches to make sure they are functioning correctly.

That would be awesome, but I recently moved to Richmond :-/


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I am assuming you have LED integrated brake/turns?

If so the most likely scenarios are in order of likelihood:

A. Burned out resistor(s).(Usually when one goes bad it "cascades" the rest).
B. Short/ground on one of the splices you made to the system.
C. Bad turn relay(internal ground).
D. Broken/loose wire in handlebar switch pod.


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I am assuming you have LED integrated brake/turns?

If so the most likely scenarios are in order of likelihood:

A. Burned out resistor(s).(Usually when one goes bad it "cascades" the rest).
B. Short/ground on one of the splices you made to the system.
C. Bad turn relay(internal ground).
D. Broken/loose wire in handlebar switch pod.
This is very helpful, I did not consider the fact that the resistors may be causing the issue.

Also I had time to unplug the tail assy last night and the problem still persisted in the turn signals. I will try removing the resistors later today.

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There's nothing like a multimeter for finding out where you stop getting current.


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