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UPDATED VIDS...yamatick not fixed...
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UPDATED VIDS...yamatick not fixed... - March 27, 2011, 05:11 PM

UPDATE- 2 VIDEOS OF TICKING JUST ADDED

So my 05 R1 has had a pretty loud tick coming from the engine somewhere,
for as long as ive had it (3 years)
. I paid no attention to it as it had been dismissed by most yamaha enthusiasts as "just another R1 with the yamha tick". I've read that it could be my valves not being at the proper gaps, it could be the cam chain tensioner needing adjustment, it could be something lose that is shaking... or it could be nothing at all (dunno how a tick this loud is nothing but some just arent bothered by it).

so a couple weeks ago i stopped by a local bike shop and was talking to the owner for a while about fork work i am thinking of getting done. i figured that id ask him if he has ever heard of it and if he has any insight into the matter. he tells me that i need to drop my oil pan and clean out my oil pan strainer. apparently what happens is that clutch particles will clog the fine strainer and thus causing a drop in oil pressure throughout the motor. the ticking apparently comes from a valve that is attempting to circulate the oil back into the engine but is struggling to do so with a clogged strainer.

made sense to me so i figured i'd rip apart the bike a bit and see what i find.

well... after dropping the oil pan and pulling off the oil pan strainer, oil pipe and oil relief valve- i have found no obstructions whatsoever. no clutch particles, or any other type of particles of any kind actually. so i while i had it all apart i figure id spray and clean all those parts with carb cleaner and wipe them clean. currently im waiting for everything to dry and then i'll reinstall.

unfortunately i am not mechanically inclined enough to start messing with valves and/or cam chain tensioner so that may just be something that gets taken care of professionally either before or after this upcoming season.

this is the first time i have taken apart my bike to this degree so even though i didnt resolve the issue i was attempting to fix, it feels good getting dirty and spending some quality time with the old girl like this.

at least she'll get some new oil and i already flushed her coolant and added distilled water with just a bit of antifreeze in it.

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RnR does awesome work... kind of a trip from MD but worth it IMO
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I'll second RnR. Have your valves checked, I had the same problem on my Gixxer.


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Yeah valves are kind of important and getting them checked would be a cautious move and put your mind at ease. I'll third RnR.


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Can you pinpoint were the tick is coming from? At the very top or on the side near the cam chain? How many miles and when was the last time you had the valves checked?


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March 28, 2011, 10:53 AM

Yeh that is more than likely where I would take it, or Myers or Rams which are closer.
@Dodge- I actually haven't tried to detect the exact placement of the tick (yeh I know that's prolly the first thing I should have done) but I'll take a listen when I put her back together in a day or two.

I bought the bike w/ just under 4.5k miles and now has in the neighborhood of 12k miles.

As far as I've owned it, the valves or cam chain tensioner were never looked at or adjusted.


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March 28, 2011, 10:04 PM

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March 28, 2011, 11:20 PM

yep 04-06 R1 tick after all they have 20 valves... what oil are you running?
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Yeh I know of the infamous yamatick but I feel this might be a little more then the norm. I'll post a bid after I get it put back together and try to isolate the source of the noise.

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I will only add one thing to this thread so take it a a grain of salt...

Just about everyone I talked to that took their 5 valve motor in for a valve adjustment only to throw a valve a few thousand miles later.

Unless it gets really bad I would just leave it alone. If the engine blows then lets swap in an 08 block.


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Did oil change lastnight, after change was done started bike and my ticking noise seemed louder than usual but most likely the same...I'm just going to ride it out, Have a track day on monday so will see how the new oil does in bike. was running Rotella t and giving mobil 1 a shot this time with pure one filter.
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I will only add one thing to this thread so take it a a grain of salt...

Just about everyone I talked to that took their 5 valve motor in for a valve adjustment only to throw a valve a few thousand miles later.

Unless it gets really bad I would just leave it alone. If the engine blows then lets swap in an 08 block.
That's interesting.... Let's hope I don't need a new engine anytime soon


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Did oil change lastnight, after change was done started bike and my ticking noise seemed louder than usual but most likely the same...I'm just going to ride it out, Have a track day on monday so will see how the new oil does in bike. was running Rotella t and giving mobil 1 a shot this time with pure one filter.
Many recommend NOT running the gold box Pure One filter in a motorcycle since the filter element is much more dense and puts unnecessary stress on the oil pump. The regular silver boxed version will filter the oil perfectly fine without the added restriction.


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March 30, 2011, 07:19 PM

lol yami tick. swap the cct with a mcct ($40 part from APE and takes about 20 minutes and you don't even have to remove the valve cover - gotta have a good eye and faith in your measurements though ) and then check the valves. The valve check tool is $5 from any auto store - take your time, learn your bike, check the valves.

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