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Leather Pants or Full suit dilemma - April 14, 2010, 10:45 AM

I've been ridding with a leather jacket and textile pants, but now that I am ready for my first track day...

As much as I will enjoy track days, I am sure that most of my ridding will be in the streets. This brings up the dilemma, should I just get a leather pant, and zip it to my jacket, or go with a full suit?

I've never been on a full suit, so I don't know how confortable they are, or even worst, how practical they are for street use? Could anybody shed some light on this subject?

BTW - If I go the suite route, it will probably be a used one, vs a new leather pant.
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With a liner like UnderArmor a full suit or pants are very comfortable.
Properly fitted a suit is nice but if you are going to go to a lot of places you may not want to have to walk around all the time in it.
A 2 piece with a zipper works well but just make sure you don't get lazy and not zip it. If you don't zip it you are basically risking your jacket coming up and your back being exposed anyway.
I have both and for the track I use the 1 piece and for the street I wear the 2.


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April 14, 2010, 10:56 AM

Hey, I've got both available on the cheap. Let me know and I'll send ya pics or we can meet up somewhere as they're both in my truck.

I get off work around 4 and am usually in the manassas area around 5.

It's a 46 suit and 32 pant


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I've been ridding with a leather jacket and textile pants, but now that I am ready for my first track day...

As much as I will enjoy track days, I am sure that most of my ridding will be in the streets. This brings up the dilemma, should I just get a leather pant, and zip it to my jacket, or go with a full suit?

I've never been on a full suit, so I don't know how confortable they are, or even worst, how practical they are for street use? Could anybody shed some light on this subject?

BTW - If I go the suite route, it will probably be a used one, vs a new leather pant.
I have both, but gotta tell you it's much easier to go with the 2-piece. As long as you buy the same brand the full circumference zippers should match up and take seconds to zip. 2-piece is much easier to get on and less likely to have improper fit...like short crotch. Also, with 2-piece you can easily and quickly take off your jacket after each session on the track to cool off, with 1 piece you got the top half flopping all over if you want to walk around. Don't forget to buy a spinal protector to go under your jacket.


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April 14, 2010, 10:59 AM

Just got a suit, end of last season. Here are my observations:

They're great for days where you're gonna do some hardcore riding, because you feel very safe, wrapped in all that leather and armor. Definitely worth having.

Wearing a suit isn't so great if you're going to pose or hang out at any of the spots, or you anticipate doing any walking around. They also draw a lot of attention. I've never noticed so many people sneak a peek at my package as I have in my suit. That's a weird feeling. Now I know what chicks must experience on a daily basis.

I just ordered a new perforated leather jacket and some A*s denim pants with kevlar in the seat and knees and pockets for CE knee protection. I think that will be my go-to whenever I'm headed to Adams Morgan this season.
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I'd opt for the two-piece for it's multi-use role on the street and get a one-piece later if you get bitten hard by the track bug.
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I'd opt for the two-piece for it's multi-use role on the street and get a one-piece later if you get bitten hard by the track bug.
I would also recommend the same. I got a 1 piece last year and wore it on the street and found it to be a pain. If you go with a 2 piece it will cover you for both purposes. I kept the one piece for a track back up but really I'm getting more use from the 2 piece.


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Just got a suit, end of last season. Here are my observations:

They're great for days where you're gonna do some hardcore riding, because you feel very safe, wrapped in all that leather and armor. Definitely worth having.

Wearing a suit isn't so great if you're going to pose or hang out at any of the spots, or you anticipate doing any walking around. They also draw a lot of attention. I've never noticed so many people sneak a peek at my package as I have in my suit. That's a weird feeling. Now I know what chicks must experience on a daily basis.

I just ordered a new perforated leather jacket and some A*s denim pants with kevlar in the seat and knees and pockets for CE knee protection. I think that will be my go-to whenever I'm headed to Adams Morgan this season.
Please don't get some false sense of safety from wearing a leather suit or 2 piece. A 2 piece does almost just as good a job of protecting you from abrasion as a 1 piece. Neither are going to protect against any real impact.
Broken legs, backs, collarbone, wrists, necks etc etc etc and death occur all the time in these suits. Abrasion is their real safety point!
Back protector is a must but a guard rail, bridge or a car don't care what ur wearing!


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two-piece for multi-use.

if you said you planned to do a lot of riding on the track, then i would say get a top-of-the-line 1-piece that will survive the multiple offs YOU WILL experience. that's why they cost so much.

my two piece leather pants are nice and comfortable and have more stretch panels and airflow than my 1-piece. however, these features are a trade-off for durability and cannot take as many offs as my 1-piece. but i'm not planning for multiple offs on the street and have them for the chance that it happens when doing some "spirited" riding.


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Back protector is a must...
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i always wear my chest/kidney/back protector on track and street. i've turned around a gone back 10 miles one time b/c i forgot it.

i might be OCD about it, but it just bugs the hell out of me to think about getting into an accident and busting up my back and all the while the damn vest was hanging in the closet at home waiting for a track day...


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+1. I didn't buy a 2 piece together, but I got the jacket and the pants separately, which should do the same trick. I'm also working on finding the right riding pants for the street too so I don't look too toolish but stay protected. ATGATT

Zice, maybe they were staring at your package, because it's so small

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Just got a suit, end of last season. Here are my observations:

They're great for days where you're gonna do some hardcore riding, because you feel very safe, wrapped in all that leather and armor. Definitely worth having.

Wearing a suit isn't so great if you're going to pose or hang out at any of the spots, or you anticipate doing any walking around. They also draw a lot of attention. I've never noticed so many people sneak a peek at my package as I have in my suit. That's a weird feeling. Now I know what chicks must experience on a daily basis.

I just ordered a new perforated leather jacket and some A*s denim pants with kevlar in the seat and knees and pockets for CE knee protection. I think that will be my go-to whenever I'm headed to Adams Morgan this season.
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Thanks for the responses fellas, I appreciate them!

So, it looks like I am better of with a 2 piece. This subject brings a new subject, back protectors?!?!

OK, so now for the squidish question, do you guys wear leather pants when ridding on the street? I wear textile, and feel naked if I don't ride with them. I guess leather pants attract a lot of attention, and might even get the squid look. To me, it is all about protection; but on the same token, I am not into trends.
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Hey, I've got both available on the cheap. Let me know and I'll send ya pics or we can meet up somewhere as they're both in my truck.

I get off work around 4 and am usually in the manassas area around 5.

It's a 46 suit and 32 pant

Talk to me about the pants. I was looking at the A*, and per their chart I am a 34. Also, I work evenings, but we can meet during the weekend.
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Thanks for the responses fellas, I appreciate them!

So, it looks like I am better of with a 2 piece. This subject brings a new subject, back protectors?!?!

OK, so now for the squidish question, do you guys wear leather pants when ridding on the street? I wear textile, and feel naked if I don't ride with them. I guess leather pants attract a lot of attention, and might even get the squid look. To me, it is all about protection; but on the same token, I am not into trends.
Nah numbnuts, the squid look is shorts, t-shirt and sandals with just a helmet and gloves.
Often I wear the same thing on the street as the track, it's not uncommon among us sportbike riders to wear full leathers and boots on the street, shows you know there is a risk and you want some good protection. Now in summer I may wear jeans and textile jacket on the rare occassion. Basically wear whatever makes you feel safe and comfortable enough to enjoy the ride. I just starting wearing my back protector on the street last year. Make sure your riding pants aren't tight in the waist, when on the bike it will bother you.


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Nah numbnuts, the squid look is shorts, t-shirt and sandals with just a helmet and gloves.
Often I wear the same thing on the street as the track, it's not uncommon among us sportbike riders to wear full leathers and boots on the street, shows you know there is a risk and you want some good protection. Now in summer I may wear jeans and textile jacket on the rare occassion. Basically wear whatever makes you feel safe and comfortable enough to enjoy the ride. I just starting wearing my back protector on the street last year. Make sure your riding pants aren't tight in the waist, when on the bike it will bother you.
You are right, safety first LOL!

On the back protector subject, my jacket has a pocket for a back protector (it actually has a thin foam on it). What would be the difference between wearing a separate back protector vs replacing the oem foam with a CE protector?
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