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Is my helmet safe? - September 22, 2008, 06:58 AM

I'll start off by saying that I've only been riding for about 6 months. My first helmet was an $80 HJC (don't recall the model #). It was too heavy, too big(shell size), and produced a hell of a lot of drag.
After about a month of that, I purchased an Icon Alliance SSR ($135). Still an entry level helmet, but the Icon fits my head great, is significantly lighter, and much more aerodynamic. Basically it feels great.

My concern is actually based on price. Is my $135 Icon as safe as a $700 Arai?


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September 22, 2008, 07:03 AM

If it's got the DOT and SNELL sticker, then yes, most likely it is as safe as a more expensive helmet. The extra $$ buys you lighter weight, better ventilation and other features. Do a search there's been some very lengthy and in-depth conversations on this issue on this board.


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September 22, 2008, 07:21 AM

Thanks for the info Thwack, but I tried searching before I started this thread and couldn't find anything.

If somebody could link me to one it'd be much appreciated!


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September 22, 2008, 10:48 AM

$80 bucks buys you the helmet, and the rest of the money goes to branding, pain job, and 'features'. As long as it's Dot and Snell approved, and your helmet fits you well, you're good to go.
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September 22, 2008, 11:06 AM

It don't have the thread handy, but there was a very good piece on the web about helmet safety a while back that gave a lot of the actual test numbers for most of the major manufacturers on a helmet by helmet basis. While there was some variation, all the helmets were well in excess of the required standards. As I recall, the $250-300 Scorpions (400 & 700 series) had better numbers than the $600-700 helmets. As was mentioned above, most of the dollars seem to related to helmet weight and the paint job, not the construction! As has been said, if its DOT and Snell approved, you're fine!
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September 22, 2008, 11:19 AM

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It don't have the thread handy, but there was a very good piece on the web about helmet safety a while back that gave a lot of the actual test numbers for most of the major manufacturers on a helmet by helmet basis. While there was some variation, all the helmets were well in excess of the required standards. As I recall, the $250-300 Scorpions (400 & 700 series) had better numbers than the $600-700 helmets. As was mentioned above, most of the dollars seem to related to helmet weight and the paint job, not the construction! As has been said, if its DOT and Snell approved, you're fine!
+1 I remember those test results too


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September 22, 2008, 11:24 AM

Is this the the article you were talking about: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ge...iew/index.html


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September 22, 2008, 11:24 AM

i'm still rockin my $40 HJC...get's scuffed up in a crash...i just rattle can over it...except my last scuff mark...right on the top of the dome....it's a constant reminder....
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i'm still rockin my $40 HJC...get's scuffed up in a crash...i just rattle can over it...except my last scuff mark...right on the top of the dome....it's a constant reminder....
yea man they do last more than 1 crash .. I am firm believer


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Depending on how bad it was... There are parts that can be damaged that you can't see.


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September 22, 2008, 11:32 AM

ah the ol helmet debate....Coming from someone who ownded an arai rx7 and now an agv. Not worth the price gap. The expensive ones are very light, comfortable, quiet, but I can deal with that to save enough money to buy a steering stabilizer, etc...


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Depending on how bad it was... There are parts that can be damaged that you can't see.
Even the smallest scratch could have bruised and weakened the important webbing inside and foam.


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September 22, 2008, 12:35 PM

WOW! That article was llooonnngg. Really seemed like they were attacking the Snell standards. Anywhoo, incase anybody comes across this thread wondering how the tested helmets stacked up, here are the results:


DOT-only helmets:

Z1R ZRP-1 (P)
Average: 152 Gs
LF: 148 gs
RF: 176 gs
LR: 153 gs
RR: 130 gs

Fulmer AFD4 (P)
Average: 157 Gs
LF: 152 gs
RF: 173 gs
LR: 175 gs
RR: 130 gs

Pep Boys Raider (P)
Average: 174 Gs
LF: 163 gs
RF: 199 gs
LR: 185 gs
RR: 152 gs

BSI/DOT Helmets

AGV Ti-Tech (F)
Average: 169 Gs
LF: 156 gs
RF: 199 gs
LR: 195 gs
RR: 129 gs

Suomy Spec 1R (BSI) (F)
Average: 182 Gs
LF: 192 gs
RF: 215 gs
LR: 197 gs
RR: 126 gs

ECE 22-05/DOT Helmets

Schuberth S-1 (F)
Average: 161 Gs
LF: 151 gs
RF: 180 gs
LR: 176 gs
RR: 137 gs

Suomy Spec 1R (ECE) (F)
Average: 171 Gs
LF: 156 gs
RF: 200 gs
LR: 190 gs
RR: 140 gs

Shark RSX (F)
Average: 173 Gs
LF: 166 gs
RF: 187 gs
LR: 201 gs
RR: 141 gs

Vemar VSR Average: 174 Gs
LF: 171 gs
RF: 198 gs
LR: 166 gs
RR: 162 gs

Snell 2000/DOT Helmets

Icon Mainframe (P)
Average: 181 Gs
LF: 168 gs
RF: 217 gs
LR: 189 gs
RR: 152 gs

Icon Alliance (F)
Average: 183 Gs
LF: 179 gs
RF: 200 gs
LR: 179 gs
RR: 175 gs

Scorpion EXO-400 (P)
Average: 187 Gs
LF: 185 gs
RF: 212 gs
LR: 193 gs
RR: 158 gs

AGV X-R2 (F)
Average: 188 Gs
LF: 192 gs
RF: 226 gs
LR: 166 gs
RR: 167 gs

Arai Tracker GT (F)
Average: 201 Gs
LF: 193 gs
RF: 243 gs
LR: 203 gs
RR: 166 gs

HJC AC-11 (F)
Average: 204 Gs
LF: 195 gs
RF: 230 gs
LR: 231 gs
RR: 163 gs

Scorpion EXO-700 (F)
Average: 211 Gs
LF: 207 gs
RF: 236 gs
LR: 226 gs
RR: 176 gs


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I think it's really intersting that the Scorpion EXO-400 performed better than the EXO-700.


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I think it's really intersting that the Scorpion EXO-400 performed better than the EXO-700.
Higher model number does not mean higher quality


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