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Close call. Look through turns! - July 30, 2009, 08:55 AM

This morning's commute left me feeling somewhat haunted. It's a beautiful morning, perfect temperature, lovely weather. I spent my ride chillin' and dodging deer (a lot of baby deer out there lately), no big deal.

I get to work and go to make the right-hand turn on to the base. I'm watching my speed through the turn, nervous because the fellow behind me is following rather close, when I look up to see the silver car stopped in front of me. Is she stopped? It was hard to tell. No brake lights.

I hit my brakes hard, careful to give the back brake more than the front (last time I slammed on my brakes, I locked up the front wheel, which is terrifying). My back tire squealed on the pavement, so I let up on it (BAD idea!) whereupon it regained traction and might have high-sided me if I hadn't already come to a stop. At the same time, I used my "out" moving towards the double yellow line as I slid up next to the stopped silver car. The lady in the car never looked at my motorcycle squealing next to her driver's side window. She was completely clueless that stopping in a through lane might be a bad idea.

Afterwards I looked at the situation. A large brown truck was on the shoulder and it seems she had stopped to let him out. The truck wasn't moving, either. As I recovered from some serious adrenaline, the brown truck lazily pulled in front of the stopped silver car, and both moved on as if nothing had happened. I have no idea why she had no brake lights, but I take the fault as my own.

If I had been looking through that turn as I should have, I never would have gotten that close. I also probably want stickier tires for my light bike. BattleAxes might have been fine for a heavy Katana, but a light FZ6 doesn't get the same rubber + asphalt friction. I'll listen to Bambam next time.

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msf class, ride your skid out.
I'm glad that nothing bad happened and that an important lesson was reminded.


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July 30, 2009, 09:06 AM

FZ6 is light?


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I have no idea why she had no brake lights, but I take the fault as my own.
Maybe her car was a stick shift and she wasn't on the brakes?

Glad you're okay and didn't crash.

We're all bound to have "oh shit" moments like you had this morning. If we can all learn from them, it'll make us better riders.


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Glad you stayed up and out of that car's trunk

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I hit my brakes hard, careful to give the back brake more than the front (last time I slammed on my brakes, I locked up the front wheel, which is terrifying). My back tire squealed on the pavement, so I let up on it (BAD idea!) whereupon it regained traction and might have high-sided me if I hadn't already come to a stop.
Locking up your front brake shouldn't scare you out of using it more, it should scare you into practicing how to use it correctly (something I need to do, too ) I definitely don't know the situation, but usually locking up the front brake is a result of clamping on it quickly instead of gradually squeezing it to allow weight to shift forward onto the front tire. Using the front brake properly will stop you MUCH faster than using the rear brake more than the front.

The only thing about that is that you have to remember to let off the front brake if you want to swerve, like you did in this situation. The front brake may have stopped you soon enough that you wouldn't have had to swerve, but I wasn't there so this is just speculation. Either way, hard braking (and swerving) is something that should be practiced. I really need to follow my own advice...
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Locking up your front brake shouldn't scare you out of using it more, it should scare you into practicing how to use it correctly (something I need to do, too ) I definitely don't know the situation, but usually locking up the front brake is a result of clamping on it quickly instead of gradually squeezing it to allow weight to shift forward onto the front tire. Using the front brake properly will stop you MUCH faster than using the rear brake more than the front.

The only thing about that is that you have to remember to let off the front brake if you want to swerve, like you did in this situation. The front brake may have stopped you soon enough that you wouldn't have had to swerve, but I wasn't there so this is just speculation. Either way, hard braking (and swerving) is something that should be practiced. I really need to follow my own advice...
exactly, using the rear brake in a panic stop situation usually leads to trouble, learn to use the front brake properly, it is extremely effective
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I never use my rear brake, that's probably not good also


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July 30, 2009, 11:15 AM

I had an "Oh Shit" moment today as well. I slab it the entire way for my commute. Taking 29 to 66 into DC is interesting enough. Having the idiots use the turn lane onto Westmoreland as a way to pass traffic makes it even more so. Look left at the car next to me since he swerved at me and as I looked straight...oh good. The truck ahead of me slamming on his brakes. Stopping that quick was fine while watching the guy behind me get close real fast. Live and learn I guess. I will be practicing more panic stops as well.


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July 30, 2009, 11:33 AM

UGH...makes my stomach knot up just to read your story!! I had a serious 'oh-shit' moment on the way to Winchester once. It was my first long ride. Light changed, car stopped, I couldn't cause I was going too fast and didn't anticipate the light changing...locked up the rear wheel...not enough front break...freaked out cause the rear was all over the place...let off rear break...still going too fast...swerved into the turn lane...luckily no one was coming up behind me...locked up the rear again using more front break...managed to stop right at the line. After that happened, I did some serious breaking drills and now I always anticipate that the light could change. Live and learn!

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I never use my rear brake, that's probably not good also
Um, confession time - I don't use mine much at all either. How bad is that?


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its not bad at all, only time I use mine is if I'm on a gravel road or running off into the dirt/cornfield
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Glad you are ok.


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July 30, 2009, 11:58 AM

Indeed, knowing and doing are two different things. The ERC (experienced riders course) taught me that. I'm a know-it-all in the classroom. I look like a second-grader in the parking lot.

I think my next bike is going to have ABS...

I've slid my tires a few times, now, and fortunately not once have they ended in a tip-over. I didn't have to swerve to use my "out" as I had enough room to plan for it, I just guided myself in that direction (I'm always ready to use the out if I have to!) so it didn't cost me any traction. I just had too much speed for a complete stop in the space provided.


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you could also play with the break settings on your lever. I loosened mine up, since it helps that "oh shit" grabbing moment on the brake, gives you a bit more squeeze before it bites.
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