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Crash on 211 Friday - June 28, 2008, 09:11 PM

My Aunt was passing over the mountain and said there a bad crash on the Sperryville side. From what she described it was at the nasty right hand decreasing radius corner near the bottom of the mountain. They were putting the rider in the ambulance as she was driving by.

If anyone heads out that way this weekend be careful! I'm sure LE patrols will be stepped up.
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June 28, 2008, 09:46 PM

It would be nice if the state would put up a big sign that showed a decreasing radius off-camber turn n front of that corner. I'd bet even money that one turn is the source of at least 50% of the accidents on that entire section of road.
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June 28, 2008, 10:12 PM

i was there on friday around 7-8pm. my noob friend almost ate that same turn, but he saved it last sec.

hope the rider is okay. be safe out there you all!


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June 28, 2008, 10:20 PM

Wasnt there a sign which said high motorcycle accident zone or something like that?
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June 28, 2008, 10:35 PM

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June 28, 2008, 10:35 PM

I'd say the best way to survive is to not ride like an asshole on a guardrail laden mountain, but that's just me.


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June 28, 2008, 10:47 PM

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Wasnt there a sign which said high motorcycle accident zone or something like that?
that is the type of turn that got you on your first fall of the day when we rode down blueridge mtn rd.


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June 28, 2008, 11:33 PM

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I'd say the best way to survive is to not ride like an asshole on a guardrail laden mountain, but that's just me.
True enough. However it's an accepted good practice to set your entry speed early and then slowly accelerate thru a turn. Works great, unless it's a decreesing radius turn and you based your entry speed on the first part of the turn.

To make matters worse that particular turn has the double whammy in that it goes off camber in the left lane just after the turn tightens up. A rider entering that turn at a pretty mellow pace can get into trouble.

It wouldn't hurt my feelings a bit if the highway department marked all decresing radius turns with a different sign than just the standard advisory sign. Tax dollars at work doing something useful. *shrug*
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June 29, 2008, 01:51 AM

This turn is also both vertically and horizontally blind. You don't have to be ballin' for it to catch you off guard. It's easy to target fixate there as well.

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I'd say the best way to survive is to not ride like an asshole on a guardrail laden mountain, but that's just me.
Most fun roads are guardrail ladden and no one ever thinks they are going too fast or above their abilities before the crash. It's not like people ride looking to crash.

It's only after the crash that it becomes obvious they were riding too fast or above their abilities.

Considering the crapload of signs the US has on the roads marking everything from the nearest McDonalds to advising people to stay in their lane or watch out for ice on the bridge, I think DOT could certainly post a decreasing radius turn marker.
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I heard about this accident yesterday at the local rescue squad. The rider ended up on the outside of the guard rail (usually has a bad prognosis) but in this case, he was complaining about being back-boarded to bring him back to the road, and didn't seem to be badly hurt. Not badly hurt to the rescue squad folks means not likely to die in the next few hours rather than treat-and-release.


The turn where this accident happened collects more motorcycles than any other on the mountain, mostly because of camber, not decreasing radius. This 8 or 10 miles of road generates a lot of discussion amongst the local constabulary about how to keep those danged bikers from killing themselves. They have lowered the speed limit from 55 to 45 to 35, posted all of the turns at 20 or 25, and put up signs specifically for motorcycles (see my avatar). Problem is – someone who has ridden all the way out here for the twisties doesn't pay much attention to a 55 mph speed limit, much less a 35. The lower speed limit just lets LEO write bigger tickets. Anyone who obeys the signs already posted will putsy over the mountain in little peril of tipping over.
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June 29, 2008, 11:18 AM

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I heard about this accident yesterday at the local rescue squad. The rider ended up on the outside of the guard rail (usually has a bad prognosis) but in this case, he was complaining about being back-boarded to bring him back to the road, and didn't seem to be badly hurt. Not badly hurt to the rescue squad folks means not likely to die in the next few hours rather than treat-and-release.


The turn where this accident happened collects more motorcycles than any other on the mountain, mostly because of camber, not decreasing radius. This 8 or 10 miles of road generates a lot of discussion amongst the local constabulary about how to keep those danged bikers from killing themselves. They have lowered the speed limit from 55 to 45 to 35, posted all of the turns at 20 or 25, and put up signs specifically for motorcycles (see my avatar). Problem is someone who has ridden all the way out here for the twisties doesn't pay much attention to a 55 mph speed limit, much less a 35. The lower speed limit just lets LEO write bigger tickets. Anyone who obeys the signs already posted will putsy over the mountain in little peril of tipping over.
I have always been someone who if I haven't been somewhere before I take it slow. Even on dirt bikes I like to learn the area first, then gradually build speed.
I have a friend who raced dirt and street for years back in the 80's. He still races enduro's and stuff. I am just amazed he is still alive, he is one of those that no matter if he has never been on a road or not he goes through that thing like he had been riding it his whole life.
I understand that at his level his eyes are just better at reading things than mine. He can look much farther ahead, read the surrounding terrain to tell him which way the road goes and his reaction time is just incredible.
I know I can't so I don't!!!


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