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Death by rider error - June 15, 2009, 12:25 AM

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i dont understand the mandatory helmet laws here a helmet is a great thing to always have on on a bike but if i dont want to ride with one i think i should be able to choose but prerequisites have to have current insurance and medical prove then get a sticker for your bike. i just ranted im irritated i cant ride with my oaklet thump sunglasses on.


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i dont understand the mandatory helmet laws here a helmet is a great thing to always have on on a bike but if i dont want to ride with one i think i should be able to choose but prerequisites have to have current insurance and medical prove then get a sticker for your bike. i just ranted im irritated i cant ride with my oaklet thump sunglasses on.
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i don't understand the mandatory helmet laws here a helmet is a great thing to always have on on a bike but if i don't want to ride with one i think i should be able to choose but prerequisites have to have current insurance and medical prove then get a sticker for your bike. i just ranted I'm irritated i cant ride with my oaklet thump sunglasses on.
Ummmm...Yeah. Gotcha. Choices. I bet the guy that died probably wishes he was wearing a helmet. But not really, cause dead people cant make choices anymore.

Its not so much how you ride, it whether or not someone is going to hit you or cause you to crash. I saw so many people riding this weekend in just shorts and t-shirts. Some even riding in flip flops. The ones that get me are the guys that have their girls on the back of the bike. The guys are all dressed up in pants, boots, jackets and gloves...and the girls are wearing flip flops, shorts and t-shirts. COME ON !!! Way to show how much you care about your girl.

Anyhow, that was my rant as well. Sorry to hijack the thread.


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i dont understand the mandatory helmet laws here a helmet is a great thing to always have on on a bike but if i dont want to ride with one i think i should be able to choose but prerequisites have to have current insurance and medical prove then get a sticker for your bike. i just ranted im irritated i cant ride with my oaklet thump sunglasses on.
The disturbing part of your post isn't that you don't support helmet laws, it's that you own Oakley Thump sunglasses.

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Ummmm...Yeah. Gotcha. Choices. I bet the guy that died probably wishes he was wearing a helmet. But not really, cause dead people cant make choices anymore.

Its not so much how you ride, it whether or not someone is going to hit you or cause you to crash.
You're spot on. We should really just ban motorcycles since they are much more dangerous than cars and so many people die on them. Who cares about freedom and choice, I bet all the dead riders out there probably wished they weren't riding.
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Seatbelt laws, helmet laws, prostitution, and gambling... All consensual crimes.

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Ummmm...Yeah. Gotcha. Choices. I bet the guy that died probably wishes he was wearing a helmet. But not really, cause dead people cant make choices anymore.

Its not so much how you ride, it whether or not someone is going to hit you or cause you to crash. I saw so many people riding this weekend in just shorts and t-shirts. Some even riding in flip flops. The ones that get me are the guys that have their girls on the back of the bike. The guys are all dressed up in pants, boots, jackets and gloves...and the girls are wearing flip flops, shorts and t-shirts. COME ON !!! Way to show how much you care about your girl.

Anyhow, that was my rant as well. Sorry to hijack the thread.
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You're spot on. We should really just ban motorcycles since they are much more dangerous than cars and so many people die on them. Who cares about freedom and choice, I bet all the dead riders out there probably wished they weren't riding.
I hear you man, riding without a lid and hitting a car's windshield didn't stop Big Ben of them Pittsburgh Steelers from adding another Super Bowl ring to his ringer. Wearing a helmet didn't help Kellen Winslow Jr or Jason Williams much.
Me, I wear a helmet in the pits on the street...anytime I'm on a moving motorcycle street or dirt...saved my life/face a handful of times already.
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i dont think it should be a law. if somone wants to ride without a helmet. let them. if they go down. more then likley they are going to die.

if somone wants to squid, let them. it is their choice.

but they make the gear to help save lives. me, i would never ride without a helmet.

the only times i can think that i might ride without a helmet. is maybe at a beach strip going like 5 mph, but i wouldnt be stunting or doing anything stupid what so ever.

and even then its not smart. cuz somone could be stupid and try a stunt and run right into you. ya never know!

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June 22, 2009, 12:42 PM

The article doesn't indicate whether this was a licensed [remotely experienced] rider or even if the bike was his. Most of the tragedies (of this nature) that I have heard of over the years involved people on borrowed bikes who "said they ride" or "used to ride dirt bikes" or the like.

The news media might be doing licensed, insured, bike owners a favor to mention if the 'motorcyclists' that they report on in articles were licensed to do so...instead of cultivating the notion that ALL riders are tragedies waiting to happen.


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June 22, 2009, 12:43 PM

what I don't get is the number of people I see riding with only tshirts is like 85% around here. shorts maybe 30%. I'm shocked by how many people aren't protected. If you just read the forums it seems like everyone gets at people for not wearing full gear, but most people I see on the street don't.

it's your choice to wear gear, not mine to make for you. I know I'll always wear my sht. I wonder if a helmet would have saved the guys life.

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i dont think it should be a law. if somone wants to ride without a helmet. let them. if they go down. more then likley they are going to die.

if somone wants to squid, let them. it is their choice.

but they make the gear to help save lives. me, i would never ride without a helmet.

the only times i can think that i might ride without a helmet. is maybe at a beach strip going like 5 mph, but i wouldnt be stunting or doing anything stupid what so ever.

and even then its not smart. cuz somone could be stupid and try a stunt and run right into you. ya never know!

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Normally I would agree, and I actually did feel the same way, until someone pointed out to me that the person who dies for not having a helmet on often affects more than just their own lives.

I am all about an individuals right to be an idiot, as long as they aren't stepping on other individual's toes.

Too often people have children that are going to lose a parent. That often leads to putting a burden on the tax-funded system.
Similarly with medical response, a scare is cheaper than an ambulance, and an ambulance is cheaper than a medivac. We're all aware how expensive healthcare is now, and how a large chunk of people don't have any. But idiot or not idiot, they get treatment just the same, on tax payer money if need be.

It's the same principle behind seat belt laws. We actually don't give a fuck if you (not you personally, you know what I mean) die or not, we give a fuck that your maiming/death costs taxpayer money.

The fact is our lives have more impact on the lives of others around us than we readily realize. Riding without gear is actually an act of selfishness in our society, not preference.

Loss of individual freedom is the price of socialist policies. If you think the "man" is telling you what you can and can't do now in regards to risking your own well-being, wait until we have universal health care.


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