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race tires are for racing - October 9, 2012, 07:43 PM

just learned my lesson the hard way.

turned the bike on, pulled away a little quickly and by 10 mph, spun around and laid it down... some how the spool managed to save it. not sure how...

stupid... lazy not putting the DOTs back on.... argh....

Mike, if you put the bike back together, thanks for leaving the spools on! I'm more scraped up than the bike

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Shyt, I've rocked race takeoffs on the street since early last year. Spinning them up cold when it's 50 degrees outside? C'mon son! But glad you aren't too banged up.


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Im not really fast enough to notice a difference between tires. I buy the kind thats black and made out of rubber.
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October 9, 2012, 08:15 PM

The same thing happens with street tires, far more often I would imagine.

I prefer my Pirelli takeoffs even in the rain and cold on my VFR.


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October 9, 2012, 08:50 PM

Lots of people run race take offs on the street. You just have to respect them. Personally I wouldn't do it though


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damn you, tires!!


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News to me - then again most everything is...
What is the issue with race take-offs that street tires are not prone to? Is it just because take-offs are usually worn down? Are we talking slicks? Or just tires with the tread worn down quite a bit? Softer material changes performance more when cold? Someone please give me the analytic take on this so I can understand.

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October 9, 2012, 10:05 PM

race compounds takes longer to heat up but tolerate higher temps. they have less traction when cold compared to street compound. where as street compound heats up quick but doesn't have the high temp threshold.

thus, you see the tire warmers on the race tires to keep the temps hot.
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What is the issue with race take-offs that street tires are not prone to? Is it just because take-offs are usually worn down? Are we talking slicks? Or just tires with the tread worn down quite a bit? Softer material changes performance more when cold? Someone please give me the analytic take on this so I can understand.

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My experience has been that race tires are designed to survive at operating temps that would shred a street tire. Conversely, they suck when way below their designed operating temps.

I'll take a sport-touring tire over a race tire or a hyper-sport tire when the temps are cold or the street is wet any day of the week. YMMV.


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October 9, 2012, 10:09 PM

also add that the avg joe can use a street compound like the Q2's on the track with no problem because, we don't ride to the max as racers do. make sure to set to the right psi; 28-30psi when cold on most tires; any more you risk a slide.
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October 9, 2012, 11:00 PM

I've been using race takeoffs since before 2000 even,remember Dunlop d364 and the original sportmax from early 1990s.its been that long ago.i never really had any problems and people I have sold mine to never said they had any either.yes I may be able to go faster with a real street tire but I don't need to go any faster.i ride in the winter too like Travis and you got to know how to feel the bike and control your self.i like Pirelli ,continental and Bridgestone as they are softer.


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October 9, 2012, 11:35 PM

I rode race tires through last winter, just because that's what was currently on the bike.

Given the choice, on a wet/ cold day, sport touring tires are preferred.


ST tires have more grip in colder tire temps, and are designed to handle more heat cycles than race tires can. Another reason for the tire warmers, to keep the tire from heating/ cooling/ heating/ cooling... this makes it rock hard. Race tires can take a higher heat than the ST tires can, but unless you're overheating the tires currently on your bike and feel them getting 'greasy', this isn't really an issue.

Used, gumball covered race tires before they are heated up have essentially no grip whatsoever. Those little gumballs turn to rocks when they cool down.

Yes you CAN ride on race takeoffs and be just fine. Lots of people do. If you're a racer, it makes sense to get the most bang for your buck as you can, instead of throwing them out at the end of the weekend/ selling them all as discounted takeoffs.


I have also rode on dry rotted tires from the 80s and was just fine. Not saying they're the same, but neither tire is ideal for average street riding, especially in the cold/ wet.

There is no such thing as the perfect tire. There is no tire that does everything well. Every tire/ tire compound out there is conceding one way or the other. Race tires suck in the cold/ wet, ST tires suck when they get overheated.

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May 30, 2013, 10:59 PM

you motherfuckers are throwing the term "race tire" like all compounds are the same. some tires turn to fucking wood after 2-3 cycles. some are fine with tons of heat cycles. I have a stack of probably 40 tires outside, and thats down from the previous years. In general hate fucking take offs. I prefer something that does not degrade through heat cycles. Sport touring tires are a great way to slide over an entire lane through a sleeper. fuck sport touring tires if you lean it over through the sweepers. I stopped riding them after that. never again.
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