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Who has crashed on 211? - March 21, 2012, 08:31 AM

Have you crashed on 211 or know of someone that has crashed on 211?

Do you think 211 is noob friendly? I've noticed a lot of rides being led that way recently.

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March 21, 2012, 08:39 AM

Does letting her tip over in the gravel parking lot on the western side of the mountain count?


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March 21, 2012, 09:40 AM

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Have you crashed on 211 or know of someone that has crashed on 211?

Do you think 211 is noob friendly? I've noticed a lot of rides being led that way recently.
I have not crashed but someone that was following me through 211 did go down. Got spooked by a SUV coming down and low-sided it. Don't know the guy personally though.

I do think that 211 is definitely noob friendly but all depends on the pace. In those situations I always think it's best for a more experienced rider to take "responsibility" for the noob. Tie the new rider to always follow the experienced rider only. They should talk about current comfort zones, abilities, fears, and how far they want to push it. Then that experienced rider will be responsible for maintaining the right speed and angles for the new rider.

In Florida I would regularly stay at the back of the pack with the newer riders and tell them to follow my path precisely when they needed to get used to either higher speeds or riding in traffic. I purposefully took the safer but slightly scary routes so they would increase their confidence little by little. I told them that if I took off without notice or I told them to stay (hand signals) to NOT follow me, then I could catch up to the group leads and communicate with them.

Another day I took off on 211 and didn't know someone was trying to follow me/keep up. When we came to a stop later the person told me that they almost shit their pants since it was their first time on 211, but loved it. If I would've known somebody was trying to keep up with me I would've brought it down a notch. I felt bad.
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March 21, 2012, 09:40 AM

It's as noob friendly as any other road. Don't ride over your head. You are not Rossi. Although, I'm lorenzo's lookalike brother


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March 21, 2012, 09:46 AM

211 is NOT noob friendly!!!!!!! I've been riding that road for a very long time and a new rider isn't ready for that road. The double apexing turns can be very scary for new riders even at slow pace.


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211 is NOT noob friendly!!!!!!! I've been riding that road for a very long time and a new rider isn't ready for that road. The double apexing turns can be very scary for new riders even at slow pace.
How does 211 compare to Mt Storm or Route 33? I'm still pretty noobish (this is my 3rd year riding) and have absolutely loved those two mountains since day 1. Haven't made it to 211 yet because I've heard bad things about how aggressive the LEOs are towards sportbike riders...but maybe those are just rumors.
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How does 211 compare to Mt Storm or Route 33? I'm still pretty noobish (this is my 3rd year riding) and have absolutely loved those two mountains since day 1. Haven't made it to 211 yet because I've heard bad things about how aggressive the LEOs are towards sportbike riders...but maybe those are just rumors.
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March 21, 2012, 10:07 AM

I think the "reputation" of 211 is worse than the actual road.

We took a pack of noobs up and over 211 without ever telling them that the road was the "infamous 211" that everyone crashes on. They enjoyed the ride, rode at their pace and afterwards, when informed that it was 211, they were shocked.

There's nothing wrong with 211 itself... it's those that want to use it as their personal race track that have the issues.


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How does 211 compare to Mt Storm or Route 33? I'm still pretty noobish (this is my 3rd year riding) and have absolutely loved those two mountains since day 1. Haven't made it to 211 yet because I've heard bad things about how aggressive the LEOs are towards sportbike riders...but maybe those are just rumors.
So then take a casual ride through 211, enjoy the scenery and you won't have to worry about LEOs bothering you. Scope out the track first
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March 21, 2012, 10:13 AM

I accidently ended up on 211 my first year riding. I was solo riding down Skyline and hd planned on getting of at Thorton's gap to head home. When I got to the stop there was a big sign that said;

"caution: high motorcycle explosion area ahead".

Well eff me.

I white nuckled it down and kept it with in my comfort zone. I was fine.

I have ridden the road several times since then.

Don't be an asshat and ride with in your skills and it is not more dangerous than other roads.

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March 21, 2012, 10:16 AM

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I think the "reputation" of 211 is worse than the actual road.

We took a pack of noobs up and over 211 without ever telling them that the road was the "infamous 211" that everyone crashes on. They enjoyed the ride, rode at their pace and afterwards, when informed that it was 211, they were shocked.

There's nothing wrong with 211 itself... it's those that want to use it as their personal race track that have the issues.


And no, I've never crashed up there.
This. It's perfectly fine for noobs, if said noobs aren't dumbasses.

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So then take a casual ride through 211, enjoy the scenery and you won't have to worry about LEOs bothering you. Scope out the track first
Yep.

Don't know why people feel the need to get out there and go balls out.

Never a good idea to ride to the limit on a public road. Ride at 100%, have nothing left for the "oh shit" situations.


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I've not been on 33 or 211 but I'm itching to go soon! I've only been riding since Sept but plan on checking out both these roads, and Skyline Dr in the next few weeks. Probably do a stay over and party it up with some friends in Charlottesville or something.
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I've not been on 33 or 211 but I'm itching to go soon! I've only been riding since Sept but plan on checking out both these roads, and Skyline Dr in the next few weeks. Probably do a stay over and party it up with some friends in Charlottesville or something.
I try to hit it on cold days when the squids aren't out in force.


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Don't know why people feel the need to get out there and go balls out.

Never a good idea to ride to the limit on a public road. Ride at 100%, have nothing left for the "oh shit" situations.
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I was the balls-to-the-wall type until I got a reckless in highland county while passing a couple cars (legally on dotted lines but way too fast...). Since then I've tried to straighten up and ride a lot safer/smarter (kinda glad I got the ticket in a way...expensive lesson to learn). But now I'm pretty paranoid about going anything more than 5 mph over. So I'm conflicted on turns...I like the challenge of going through the turn with a little speed, but I'm terrified of going by a cop with a hatred for bikers that will give me a ticket for 5 or 10 over the posted speed limit. Makes me want to buy a drz and stick to dirt roads....
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