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Bike positioning - August 30, 2009, 08:15 PM

I have heard different takes and have been trying to consiously try different positions to feel best. When in full lean and knee down do most of you weight your foot on the outside peg. I feel like a lot of times my weight is on the inside peg. Next time I go out I will see what works the best.


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August 30, 2009, 09:00 PM

Outside peg once the turn is initiated. If you've got your weight on the inside peg it's probably because you don't trust your outside leg to hold you on the bike (at least that used to be my problem, LOL)

Weighting the inside peg is a nice way to powerslide coming out of a corner though.
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I am usually on the inside peg and even with the R1 if doesnt get loose coming out.


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August 30, 2009, 09:29 PM

Usually you want the majority of your weight to be on the inside peg. Not really sure why or how you would put your weight the outside peg?


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geometry...outside peg equals better traction....means you can use more power coming out of the turn.....which means faster lap times.... simple


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You will get conflicting responses on this. From what I've learned through classes is, weight the inside on turn in and the outside on exit. If you hang off the bike too far, it's impossible to weight the outside peg. It really comes into play when your rear tire breaks away and starts to slide. By weighting the outside peg, it helps the bike regain traction. If you weight the inside peg more, your putting more force on the rear tire and thus will spin more.

But take this with a grain of salt cause I'm slow and have a hard time weighting the outside peg too. Take the cornerspin class...you will learn all of this, plus what to do when you push the front, what it feels like and most importantly, you will crash lol.
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August 31, 2009, 08:31 AM

My comments aren't about inside/outside vs traction but I will say hanging from the outside leg vs putting all your weight on the inside leg definitely feels better and helps with fatigue. When I am doing it I feel so much more relaxed in the turn, if I am on the inside peg hard my leg gets tired superfast!
I know very quickly if I am doing it because I get tired so much faster. Getting the form right may take a while and sometimes by the time I do it is too late and my inside leg doesn't even want to work enough to initiate a turn!
I will leave the traction physics to people who know and need it LOL I am too slow for that part to matter!


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most from talkiong with guys/gals only weight the outside peg IF they feel the tire starting to or already has broke loose....

I weight the inside....play around with weighting the outside...


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The inside/outside peg weighting will affect the bike's center of mass (your body position also affects the center of mass). The center of mass will determine how much throttle you can give at a certain speed/lean angle. Either can be used depending on the situation, there is no "right" answer to this.

When you are at or near the limits of your tires' traction for a given speed and lean angle, weight on the inside peg will cause your rear tire to slide and weight on the outside will help keep it planted or regain traction after it starts to slide. On the track the main goal is to go fast, so on the exit of a turn you want to get to full throttle as soon as possible to get a good drive...this usually involves weighting the outside so that the rear doesn't break loose. However, if your line is running wide, you may want to weight the inside peg so that your rear will slide on purpose to help alter your line and point you where you need to go.

If you are not at the limits of traction, you may or may not notice a difference between weighting the inside/outside peg, but one may be more comfortable or less fatiguing. Inside weight will usually help hold a tight line and outside weight will usually straighten up your line, but YMMV.

+1 for cornerspin!!!! It's a blast road racing on 8hp dirtbikes, and the effects of peg weighting are much more noticeable. You will definitely learn a lot about how many different inputs can affect the way the bike handles. If (when) you go beyond the bike's tration limit at 20mph on the dirt it won't hurt as bad (or cost as much) as exceeding the limits on a racebike going 100mph.
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depends where your head is, I weight the outside peg, if I weight the inside I feel like I drift out.....but that is just me


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he purposefully is weighting the inside peg to get the back end to slip, when he gets near the edge of the track he shifts the weight to the outside to stop the slide
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he purposefully is weighting the inside peg to get the back end to slip, when he gets near the edge of the track he shifts the weight to the outside to stop the slide

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The inside/outside peg weighting will affect the bike's center of mass (your body position also affects the center of mass). The center of mass will determine how much throttle you can give at a certain speed/lean angle. Either can be used depending on the situation, there is no "right" answer to this.
I would say that you body position is used to change your center of mass and that which peg you weight is an effect of your body position. How can you weight the outside peg when your leaned over and your upper thigh is supporting your weight? Attempting to weight the outside peg would mean that you would need to take the weight off of your outside thigh in order to transfer it to the peg, in turn changing your body position.

I would focus your effort more on body position, because again that will determine where the weight is transferred from side to side across the bike.


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