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Brake Fingers...Stop Sooner - July 13, 2006, 09:15 AM

Ever ride with your fingers covering the clutch/brake? I used to do this all the time and kinda got out of the habit except in traffic or when I thought something was coming up where I would have to react quickly.

Something to think about: At 60 MPH, saving one second of reaction time will allow you to stop 88 feet sooner.



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Unless I'm a wide open road where no cars are within a couple hundred feet of me I always keep the brake covered.


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Unless Ive got the throttle pinned the brake is covered. I tell everybody I help learn how to ride to do it to. Even one finger is better at stoping than none.


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I've almost always got 2 fingers resting on the brake and 1 on the clutch.


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For some reason I'm a freak. I almost always have 3 fingers on the brake lever.

Downside for street folks...if you haven't adjusted your suspension to give good feel/feedback...then you would be more prone to tucking the front during trailbraking if you are unconsciously tensing up in a precarious situation. (Not realizing you are doing it.)

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Good reminder..88 feet is a lot of distance.


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I was taught to always cover with 2 fingers in MSF course, some reason it is real uncomfortable with 2 so sometimes I just use 1, but never uncovered and that is for clutch and brake.
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If it takes yo a full second to let go of the grip and press the crakes in an EMergency situation, then you have the reflexes of a snail.

But that is interesting.. 88 feet seems like a long way?


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I was taught to always cover with 2 fingers in MSF course, some reason it is real uncomfortable with 2 so sometimes I just use 1, but never uncovered and that is for clutch and brake.
Really? When I just recently took the MSF they didn't want us to cover the brake at all. The clutch yes, but not the brake. Obviously this is because they're afraid that some that are less familiar with the controls might grab the brake by accident and dump the bike. I specifically asked about this because I'd heard from others that they took points off on your test if you were covering the brake.


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1 finger on clutch and brake for me all the time.


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If it takes yo a full second to let go of the grip and press the crakes in an EMergency situation, then you have the reflexes of a snail.

But that is interesting.. 88 feet seems like a long way?

Maybe just the motion of adjusting your grip might not take a second if your thinking about it, but realistically, in a real life situation during the unexpected....by the time your brain rekoniz's the danger and you react...you're most likely looking at about a second. And yes, 88 feet is a lot...but accurate. Even with cat reflexes like yours , half a sec is still 44 feet. Thats still a significant difference in keeping something in front of your front tire rather than behind your rear.



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Really? When I just recently took the MSF they didn't want us to cover the brake at all. The clutch yes, but not the brake. Obviously this is because they're afraid that some that are less familiar with the controls might grab the brake by accident and dump the bike. I specifically asked about this because I'd heard from others that they took points off on your test if you were covering the brake.
Well, I took it '98 so it may have changed, but the key is reacting quicker. You may have pretty quick reflexs, but think about it. Any wasted motion is going to cost time, it takes more time to grab the brake and squeeze the brake then to just squeeze the lever. Maybe not a lot, but when you need to slow down quick to avoid something half a second or even a quarter of a second can make a world of difference (44, 22 feet). Just my opinion though, have had too many cars, deer, people, etc jump out in front of me when I scanned well ahead of me and saw nothing.
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i think it is important to point out that draping is for street purposes, if you use it. I do not.


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i think it is important to point out that draping is for street purposes, if you use it. I do not.
Street I drape especially around cars...track I do not drape at all...in that scenario it would probably lead to more bad than good.

Good thing to practice panic stops at least a few times a year.


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I don't do drape at all, but I am quick like puma and dumb like ox.

But that was an interesting bit of information.


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