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How to transfer from one side to the other smoothly?
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How to transfer from one side to the other smoothly? - June 16, 2007, 03:06 PM

Today, I was riding and went through an S-curve, and I got off the bike to the right, then had to tansfer and get off the bike to the left. During the transition, I used the power of the bike to help me bring the bike upright, and pushed on my right peg to allow me to move my body up/over to the left. When I did this though the bike became somewhat unstable, or it felt that way? I'm still new/learning how to push it and I'm not sure if that is how it's supposed to be done/feel, or what is the best way to transfer side? Thanks guys.
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June 16, 2007, 03:14 PM

The best way would be to come out to Summit Point one day and practice to your hearts content in a controlled environment with trainers looking over you.

The second best way would be to not weigh the inside peg during a turn. I use my outside leg to gently lift up and my outside thigh to bring me back center all the while letting up on the countersteering. dont forget to look where you want to go


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June 16, 2007, 03:41 PM

I'm still practicing and have a lot to learn, but I've at least found that foot placement makes a difference. If you're used to riding street--standard or cruiser style--you probably place the footpeg under your arch or just in front of it in an arrangement that allows you to cover your rear brake and shift levers. Try putting the balls of your feet down on the pegs. I find that I can climb around on the bike better. I hope someone with more experience and expertice than I have will comment on this.


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June 16, 2007, 03:44 PM

+1 to what Orange said. Being on the balls of your feet allows you to "suspend" yourself better and have better feel for the pressure your putting on the peg. There's actually not a whole lot of weight on the seat.


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June 16, 2007, 03:47 PM

Its difficult to explain in text how to to this smoothly. The balls of your feet on the pegs is a good point. When swapping sides I usse my outer thigh, knee, and elbow to switch quickly. Like Chris said you want to weight the outside peg not the inner. If you have a DVR tape one of the races and then slow mo a section where the fast guys are going through an esse turn to see what its like.


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Cme make another Monday ride and we'll work on it. Not hard.

1) Balls of your feet with heels slightly in.

2) Guide the tank with your thigh and knee

3) Set up early.

4) Look where you want to be going at all times.


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June 16, 2007, 07:52 PM

As a followup, I also should mention something that you have to change from standard/cruiser riding style, if that's what you're used to. Obviously you won't be covering the rear brake as much on a sportbike. When you're "up on your balls" and hovering over the seat in the twisties, moving left and right like a monkey, you don't want to go grabbing the rear brake much. Leave as much of your static friction on your rear tire to the turn as possible. Save your rear brake for the (hopefully) rare occasions when you must straighten up and come to a stop. Otherwise, modulate with the front brake before the turn. At least this is what I've learned. There may be some more experienced Netters that have different opinions on this.

Johnny, I'm hoping to play hookie and make at least one of your monday rides this summer.


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<---(shaking his head) Technique on turn transitions? That's rarefied bullshit.

My first trackday was in 1990, and I've never ever heard this asked.
Reminds me of a guy in the MARRC class asking me how far to lean a bike in a turn. I wanted to respond, "if you crash, you leaned too far." But I gave him a more polite answer, as I will try to do here...

Practice. Period. If that doesn't work. Take a class. You won't get more comfortable on your bike by reading this thread.

Come to Summit and work on smooth thru turns 7 and 8.
If it's two distinct motions for you to switch sides? ...then you're going too slow.

Pardon my crass nature. I love the problem solvers here. If I started a thread asking for techniques for tucking in behind the windscreen, I bet a dozen posts would appear with a numbered list of how-to's, as though there are 4 to 5 things you must remember when sticking your big head behind the bubble.


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I bet a dozen posts would appear with a numbered list of how-to's, as though there are 4 to 5 things you must remember when sticking your big head behind the bubble.
1.) Keep your back straight. No slouching!
2.) Bend your elbows.
3.) Stay loose up top.
4.) Keep your eye on the ball.
5.) (optional) PM the Big Cannoli next time you have a question.

Ok, this is post #1. Only 11 to go. J/K. Not everyone races, dude. Thanks though. Summit's on the list of things to do.


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...Not everyone races, dude. Thanks though. Summit's on the list of things to do.
Point taken, ShirtDude. tushee. (pronounced 'too shay'?)
I was tired and cranky lastnight.


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Point taken, ShirtDude. tushee. (pronounced 'too shay'?)
I was tired and cranky lastnight.


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June 17, 2007, 03:22 PM

JohnnyV While not erry one here races some like to give input. Not as an end all answer to act as a god or anything. I know I still have a lot to learn. Oh yeah keep some midal around so when your PMS cranks up again your ready.


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JohnnyV While not erry one here races some like to give input. Not as an end all answer to act as a god or anything. I know I still have a lot to learn. Oh yeah keep some midal around so when your PMS cranks up again your ready.
Okay, no more manstruating from a disgruntled ex-racer.
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Johnny V you may be suffering from early onset of IMS. Irratable Male Syndrome.





And now back to the program.

As said by JV I think the set up for a turn should be one fluid movement of many things. And the only way to make it easy is practice and lots of it.


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June 17, 2007, 07:09 PM

I went for a little ride and being on the balls of my feet felt funny at first, but it did help. Thanks for your tips guys.

Johnny V, I was just looking for a little insight, and I don't think transfering your weight from one side to another is the same as asking how far do I lean, but I think you were right though, in that I was going too slow.
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