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Riding tips for a noob - May 11, 2007, 08:33 AM

I've been riding off and on for about a year now and I'm still looking to improve, so any (good) advice is appreciated. Here are two main areas I need to work on:
1. Throttle control: I find myself chopping the throttle especially when going over bumpy roads. When ever I go over a bump, my hand shake and I close the throttle (not consciously). Any advice on how to be more smooth? The obvious would be not to go over bumps but sometimes they are unaviodable in DC/MD
2. Low speed manuevers: When doing low speed turns, I think too much and end up going too slow causing the bike to be unstable. Yes I didn't do well on the MSF figure 8s.

Also, are there any good riding schools out there that cater to novices?
Anyone want to mentor a noob?
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check out the threads for cornerspeed. Seriously, that is the best advice for you. Join some other .net folks, ride around with control riders who are also .net members and really work on it in a safer environment. what you can learn in one day from cornerspeed would take you much longer on the road..

the low speed stuff you can do on your own at any parking lot. just set up some spots to practice practice practice...


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May 11, 2007, 08:45 AM

Seat time and lots of it. Also, there is an "Adopt a Newbie" thread on here somewhere. Check that out. Great people have offered their time to the safe training of new riders.
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Where are you at in MD? We are in Frederick and do a ride every weekend. You are more than welcome to come up and join us.


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May 11, 2007, 08:51 AM

spud: I checked out cornerspeed and they are sold out for a while, but I'm going to call and talk to someone to get more details
deviousr6: Once i fix my bike this weekend, i'll hit up parking lots but if I'm doing something wrong, then i'm doomed to repeatedly practicing it and making it a habit
madali: I saw that and posted up to be adopted but no bites. I actually went on a ride last yr with some guys and learned more about cornering than I ever did at MSF
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Where are you at in MD? We are in Frederick and do a ride every weekend. You are more than welcome to come up and join us.
Do NOT pass up this offer!!!
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Where are you at in MD? We are in Frederick and do a ride every weekend. You are more than welcome to come up and join us.
College park. Riding this saturday/sunday? whats the pace?
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That "throttle issue" can be remedied a great deal by supporting your weight with your back more and keeping your elbows bent...you're supporting your weight with your arms and therefore it transitions to your throttle....keep a loose, easy grip on the clip-ons, which will also help you with your turns.....


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2. Low speed manuevers: When doing low speed turns, I think too much and end up going too slow causing the bike to be unstable. Yes I didn't do well on the MSF figure 8s.
oh my gawd I pwned the figure 8!!


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Thanks Whisper, I'll work on that.
Quake...: bro that figure 8 was crazy! I kept dropping my foot. The one (and only) time I did it perfect, I got off the bike and did a little dance. that was weird for everyone
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College park. Riding this saturday/sunday? whats the pace?
RRonin and R6SheDevil are good people...you can learn a lot from both of them!


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Thanks Whisper, I'll work on that.
Quake...: bro that figure 8 was crazy! I kept dropping my foot. The one (and only) time I did it perfect, I got off the bike and did a little dance. that was weird for everyone
I ran into a guy working in a bank a week ago that told me how he went to take the test on a friends bike,but the plates were dead so they wouldn't let him use it.Theres another guy there taking the test with a 1000-something.The guy dropped the 1000,broke a bunch of stuff...1000 owner guy was pissed and the guy never got a motorcycle.

The MSF offers an advanced course.Go to a huge parking lot for a few hours and just run the same loop over and over and over and increase your lean just slighly each turn.Try different body positions and head positions.Find that position where it feels right.


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That "throttle issue" can be remedied a great deal by supporting your weight with your back more and keeping your elbows bent...you're supporting your weight with your arms and therefore it transitions to your throttle....keep a loose, easy grip on the clip-ons, which will also help you with your turns.....
Right on point.
Use your torso to keep your arms loose. Use your legs in turns to help the suspension. Don’t be a sack of potatoes getting shifted around by the bike.

Check your “wrist down” position as taught in MSF. Do you drape fingers over the brake lever? If so, (in any case actually) rotate the lever down so it’s comfortable and not bending your wrist TOO far down. What you want, if clearance with bodywork and such permits, is to be able to put a straight edge across elbow, wrist, and knuckle when in the riding position with fingers on brake.

A note about finger draping: It can be a good thing in traffic but is not recommended in twisties. I say can be a good thing in traffic because it reduces reaction time, but it can work against you if you’re prone to panic reactions. For many years I rode with fingers draped almost all the time. Now I only drape when the threat level reaches a certain point.

RRonin is a great street rider who has taught a lot to quite a few people on this board. His wife, R6SheDevil, knows what time it is too. If you have the opportunity to ride with them . . .

Don’t do the Cornerspeed School until you are comfortable in the twisties. Do your seat time.

Sorry I missed you at MSF but come to Cornerspeed, where I also teach, next year or later this season,.

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