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Tie down questions - May 28, 2008, 07:48 PM

Definitly a noob question but an important one IMO. I'm trailering (with chocks) my bike and my buddies bike down to OC this weekend. I've never tied down a bike before and I want to make sure i keep my precious baby secured. I found some "how tos" on online but they were only concerned with cruisers, not a sport bike. Anyone willing to write up a short procedure for me? Thanks in advance.


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May 28, 2008, 07:56 PM

A lot of .netters in your area; maybe they could come by and actually help you tie them down, that would be the best bet. Its easier to learn by watching/doing...thats why porn is so important!

What time are you heading out?

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May 28, 2008, 08:15 PM

Use Canyon Dancers (http://www.canyondancer.com/Products.aspx) on the front. If you dont have a Canyon Dancer, you can use soft ties or soft loops and put the straps on those instead (http://www.discountramps.com/motorcy...own_straps.htm). Around the inside of the upper handle bar clamps or around the forks (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...orcycle137.jpg).

And you can use regular straps on the rear using soft loops/ties as well. Tighen the front down snug but not to much where you compress the forks all the way down. Thats not good. Same for the rear. Only needs to be snug. Your not going 4 wheeling so you dont have to do them to tight. You are only black slabbing the bikes to OC.

Some people like rachet type straps (http://www.lockitt.com/AccessTieDown1.htm) and others perfer the Cam type straps (also in the link above). The choice is yours. I perfer the rachet because they dont tend to pop undone. But that is just myself.

Just remember that you dont want to over do it when you tighen them. You dont want to compress the folks to much (some, but not all the way down) and a couple of straps for the rear on each side (http://www.discountramps.com/motorcycle_tie_down-1.jpg). But not to much to where you start pulling the frame or what ever you are hooked to apart.

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May 28, 2008, 08:42 PM

yeah thanks it did help. Whats a good location to wrap the soft loops around for the rear of the bike?

Blue-R im leavin at noon friday, want to come tie them up for me?


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yeah thanks it did help. Whats a good location to wrap the soft loops around for the rear of the bike?
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IMHO I highly recommend using Condor locking Chocks, Canyon Dancers, and ratchet type straps. I tighten til the forks compress halfway, and loosen the straps whenever parked for extended periods. Generally speaking I tighten until shaking the bike actually shakes the trailer more than the bike.

Make sure your rear straps oppose each other and don't pull against your front two straps (if you use rears). You want your front two pulling unopposed into your chock. If your rears apply tension against your front you can hit a bump and pop your bike right out of the chock. (been there, done that)

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I use canyon dancers. No probs over here. Only thing I'd do that may not have been mentioned (didn't click the links) would be to check and make sure the right side isn't trying to hold your throttle open past the 100% mark, otherwise it can damage it. FI bikes I would imagine are less prone to flooding Do NOT start your bike on the canyon dancer. Heard a guy start his, didn't realize his canyon dancer was holding the throttle wide open....about a minute till he realized what to do (he froze up!) and needed to rebuild the motor because he was on the rev limiter for one minute on a cold motor.

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All great advise.
I have hauled a bike from St. Louis to Frederick in the back of my truck with no Chock (have one now for my trailer) just used 4 straps in front. 2 on the bars with http://www.talcospecialties.com/web28.htm just handle bar slings, then I used 2 on the front wheel to make sure it couldn't go side to side and strapped it to the side of the bed.
Rear doesn't have to be tight, it is just to keep it from hopping around.

Put the bike in gear, don't know if it really helps but have always done it.

Make sure whatever chock you use it doesn't come in contact with the rotors.


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leave it in neutral with the kickstand up and don't use the ratchet type they dont tighten enough

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I use Johnny. That way, if it falls over, I can blame him

With all the I have, I am not able to get them down tight. Canyon Dancers like Mike said, are the best.


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leave it in neutral with the kickstand up and don't use the ratchet type they dont tighten enough

if it is loose you will know it
I can't see how you can say don't use the ratchet type, you think the other kind that you just pull on and come loose are better????
The ratchet type can pull your bike apart if you wanted to!


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yeah but people never tighten them down enough, you have to really cranck on them, when you use the ones you just pull on you can feel the forks compress

I have used those kinds dozens of times with dozens of bikes


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yeah but people never tighten them down enough, you have to really cranck on them, when you use the ones you just pull on you can feel the forks compress

I have used those kinds dozens of times with dozens of bikes
Guess we will just have to agree to disagree!

While I use the kind you pull on, years of strapping dirt bikes, they work fine for me as well but I would never tell someone the ratchet kind can't get tight enough. Plus once they are tight they won't come loose unlike the pull kind.

Even on my Harley I only use the pull kind but when a dealer saw me using them he brought out a pair of ratchet kind as he didn't want my bike coming loose...


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