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what YOU think? - May 7, 2009, 10:26 AM

So my 2006 zx636 going on 21,000 miles, got it new from champions. finally got the $ from that got knocked over my bike. So Anyways i need valve adjustment, and also wants to replace front n rear sprocket n chain, i dont want to do too crazy wit the speedo. so -1 front n +1 rear wit 520 chain ok? or just -1 front, or +2 rear only? steel brake line! would i even feel the difference. thanks


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I believe -1 in the front is the equivalent to going +3 in the rear (without doing anything to the rear...).


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May 7, 2009, 10:40 AM

i believe talkofdc is correct. I also know of a few (small few) ppl that change the front sprocket to get a feel of the power change, before changing the back. I didn't do that, but that could be an option if you want to try it out like that.

-1/+1 is kinda pointless. Check out gearingcommander.com and play with the changes. (didn't see ur specific bike, so I used the presets for a 2006 zx6r) Apparently -1/+1 will slow you down a lot across the board.

and that's a big yes on the feel of the ss brake lines.
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Dubbz, use the ratio of rear sprocket to front sprocket for comparison. For example, my OEM drive system on the 10r is 39/17 (rear teeth #/front teeth #) or 2.294. I dropped to a 16 up front, and my ratio is now 2.438. On my 7r I had the ratio up to about 2.7 before I sold it, and it was just about right. However, 2.7 would be too high for the 10r, and the front wheel would never be on the ground. It's a bit bike dependent.

What I would do is look on the kawi forums for used front and rear sprockets that you can put on just for a few trials with your old 525 chain to see what you like. Then once you decide, spend the cash on the new system.


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I'd say go -1...I did it on the R6 and I could definitely feel a little bit of a power increase. The front tire definitely wants to come up a little more now. It drops your top speed a bit but will keep your RPMs a bit higher while cruising so you will sit closer to the power band. Good example - You're on the highway in 6th at about 65, you'll only have to downshift to 4th to get to the powerband instead of 3rd because the RPMs are about 800 - 1k higher.


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thanks guys. vortex is ok right?


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I have an 05 636 with -1 in the front and stock rear. I think i felt a difference but i'm not sure. And my bike is going to RNR for a valve job saturday at almost 43,000 miles, whoops
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May 7, 2009, 11:13 AM

-1 up will definately make your front end light as hell and gives it a higher torque feel.

If you plan on tracking your bike, it will help for acceleration but up top you will lose the battle.

Also, your bike will be running at a high RPM than it used to (I noticed it on one of my bikes for cruising along and went back to stock gearing).

You shouldn't have to funk with the brake lines on that bike unless your catching some fade, best system for that bike came stock.

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thanks guys. vortex is ok right?
Vortex
Renthal
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Driven

all good. depending on how hard you will be gettin on it, u may find urself replacing the aluminum ones twice or more a year. I had vortex on my 600 then on my 750 and then I tried the Driven ones....both didn't last me a full year (I ride year round) so I switched to a 530 JT -1/+2 steel set up
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Vortex isn't worth the trouble. Go with AFAM or Renthal.


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thanks guys. vortex is ok right?
Im a strong advocate of Renthal Sprockets... Vortex is crap.



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Vortex isn't worth the trouble. Go with AFAM or Renthal.
AFAM FTW!!!


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For SS lines, it's up to you. The stock lines will give when the fluid starts to really heat up. You can tell a difference, your brakes feel firmer and less squishy, but it isn't a necessity. As long as your pads and discs are good, you should be fine on the stock setup....unless you're in need of better braking due to your riding habits.
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May 18, 2009, 11:24 AM

ok so which chain should i get?
i already got 14t front sprocket by driven, still waiting for driven rear sprocket but stock 43t

1 - RK GB520
2-TYC 520HSO Chain
3- Renthal's 520 r4 srs


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