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Lightbulb HID lights? - December 26, 2007, 05:35 AM

My dad sent me some HID lights for the bike. Are these things a PITA to install or what? I'm mechanically inclined, but these things don't look easy.... Anyone have any experience doing this?

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you will only be able to put a HID in your low beam. In the gixxers I believe the high beam has some type of reflector thing over the bulb.
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you will only be able to put a HID in your low beam. In the gixxers I believe the high beam has some type of reflector thing over the bulb.
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If I put some money into it, is it possible to install the high beam? Sorry for the dumb questions...


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you could trim away the reflector so when you install the hid it will still be contained and not shoot everywhere.

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My dad sent me some HID lights for the bike. Are these things a PITA to install or what? I'm mechanically inclined, but these things don't look easy.... Anyone have any experience doing this?

It's a K7 750.
The worst thing about installing them is finding a place for your ballasts and relays. Once you have done that, the rest is simple. It should be pretty much plug and play with the exception of running a wire from your positive battery terminal to the relay.

The easiest way would be to take your bike to RNR and have them install it.


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How about I buy a lot of beer and someone come over and help?


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you could trim away the reflector so when you install the hid it will still be contained and not shoot everywhere.

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It's usually a bad idea to put HID's on a high beam, because they take several seconds to warm up and give good light, usually not working well with typical high beam use where you switch them on and off a lot... Besides, you dont get as much gains over a typical halogen high beam. if you need to trim reflector pieces to make it work, it doesn't sound worth it.


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Besides, you dont get as much gains over a typical halogen high beam.
This is so not the case. You will get three times the output of a halogen bulb.

And if you don't believe me, check out my car or bike headlights next time you come to the spot.

The best housing for a HID light would be a projector as it will contain and direct the light, however, if you are going to install it in a reflector housing, the light will be all over the place but it will still outshine a halogen bulb.


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I understand they're better, brighter and warmer color etc. I have already installed a pair on a friend's r6, and will do my own low beam soon. It's a great mod for a low beam, lots of gains.

I still stand that it's not as good for a high beam. High beam bulbs tend to have a higher wattage (or less light blocking) than low beams, so brightness gains are not as much as w/ low beams, plus high beam lenses are not as focused as low, HID's need to be well focused to optimize their performance (as you stated). This is compunded further when you throw an HID bulb in a housing meant for a halogen, because the filaments of the bulbs are located at different points and can run in different directions, throwing off the focus of the housing even more. On top of all that, for the first 10-20 seconds that the bulb is on, it will still be dim while warming up, defeating any brightness gains you had. Most high beams in a typical urban or suburban environment don't stay on for long stretches, so the bulbs will be constantly warming up.

Yeah it looks cool to other people, but in terms of usable light output, you get diminishing returns replacing the high beam w/ HID, and when you start needing to do major mods to the housing to do it, I just dont think it's worth it.

There's also a some theory or study going on that explores whether unfocused HID light spilling out into the periphery of the road actually decreases performace because it will take away more of your night vision which is still necessary while driving with headlights, but thats a whole other can of worms....

I'll still check out your HID's at the spot, b/c I think they look great on bikes.

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This is so not the case. You will get three times the output of a halogen bulb.

And if you don't believe me, check out my car or bike headlights next time you come to the spot.

The best housing for a HID light would be a projector as it will contain and direct the light, however, if you are going to install it in a reflector housing, the light will be all over the place but it will still outshine a halogen bulb.


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December 27, 2007, 10:32 AM

Thanks for all the info! It appears to be too much effort to get the high-beam on. I'm an idiot when it comes to this stuff, so I had no idea that HIDs are a good upgrade. My dad sent them with the expectation that I'll be more "visible". After doing a google search, I'm sorry that this wasn't the first thing I did.


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