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HOW TO: Clean a rusty tank like a toilet bowl
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HOW TO: Clean a rusty tank like a toilet bowl - May 9, 2011, 02:52 PM

Sure you can get fancy three stage de-rusting and sealing kits like POR or KReem. Or use something like Metal Rescue or EvapoRust. But in the spirit of trying home remedies, I opted to go for another legend of builder forums.

The tale being that you can clean a tank just as well with household toilet bowl cleaner. Yup, you've read about Muriatic Acid (avb Home Depot), which may also work but will set you back a mere $10 or so- good deal right?

Try $1. The Works toilet bowl cleaner is available for about a buck at dollar tree, wally mart and all your other fine high end dining establishments.



Being an elitist, my burbs don't roll like that, so I went with high end Lysol Lime & Rust for a staggering two bucks and change.



Basic premise is the same. These cleaners contain HCl or hydrochloric acid which will zap that rust for you.

1. drain tank of any residual fuel.
2. rinse tank
3. Insert handful of drywall screws
4. empty toilet bowl cleaner in tank
5. shake
6. shake some more
7. keep shaking
8. let sit on each side for about 10 minutes
9. rinse thoroughly, make sure all drywall screws are out (duhh)
10. Dry thoroughly (hair dryer, direct sunlight) - DO THIS - you are working with water and flash rust will happen if you do not get this dry

My crossover nipples (you liked that..admit it) were clogged with rust.

After the Lysol soak:


The top of the tank had a surface rust spot which didn't soak in the toilet bowl cleaner but even that cleaned up nicely with incidental contact. Since my iPhone is a piece of junk and does not fit inside my tank, you'll have to go by the glimmer of the interior you see. Cleans up nicely. Tanks smells nice and fresh too...



Now for the best part: this is toilet bowl cleaner so it is safe to dispose of normally at your home and it will not harm your paint immediately (don't overdo the soaking part on painted areas to be sure and wipe down spillage)

Most folks say that as long as you keep gas in the tank, it won't need a coating.

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Nicely done, looks like you're making some good progress....next project to be completed, motard?


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Sweet! I was just going to ask for advice on this. How bad was the rust inside the tank?


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When is a good time to drop an old GSXR tank off at your place?


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Sweet! I was just going to ask for advice on this. How bad was the rust inside the tank?
mostly lower and sidewall rust - flaky stuff.

Big piles came out after the first rinse with water and the shaking with the drywall screws

After treatment finish is fairly smooth and rust has reacted as follows:
HCl+Fe2O3(Fe3O4)->FeCl+H2O

Big thing for me was that it unclogged the crossover which had been rusted shut.

Phosphoric acid may be more thorough but this toilet bowl cleaner is easier to handle (well ventilated area etc, if you can clean a toilet you can use this).

It's worth a shot, if nothing else it will be a good prep for further treatment.


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mostly lower and sidewall rust - flaky stuff.

Big piles came out after the first rinse with water and the shaking with the drywall screws

After treatment finish is fairly smooth and rust has reacted as follows:
HCl+Fe2O3(Fe3O4)->FeCl+H2O

Big thing for me was that it unclogged the crossover which had been rusted shut.

Phosphoric acid may be more thorough but this toilet bowl cleaner is easier to handle (well ventilated area etc, if you can clean a toilet you can use this).

It's worth a shot, if nothing else it will be a good prep for further treatment.
Very true. My tank is lookin pretty nasty. Been sitting for close to 10 years.


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Very true. My tank is lookin pretty nasty. Been sitting for close to 10 years.
This one sat for 22

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This one sat for 22

Give it a shot
You got me beat! Thanks for the tip! I'll let you know how it goes on mine!


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Nice. I might need to try that on my ducati soon!!!


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I will try this and see what comes out of the tank. It does not cost much to try it.
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I can confirm this works... I've don't the electric method, etc. I've used toilet bowl cleaner and concrete acid etching.

I still sealed the tank with POR15


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IMO the electronic BS method was really good with loosening things up... but the acid based chemical finished it off. Bowl Cleaner or Floor Etching... with this ethonal fuel attacking "water" more quickly, i'd still seal it.


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May 10, 2011, 09:34 AM

yup I'm def sealing mine. POR15 beats Kreem from what I've heard

Tank is off and clean - why risk it and have to pull it to seal it later.

Also - flash rust is a bitch

This works as a cheap and fast way to get things cleaned up


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