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Angry I'm Addicted To Stalling... - October 10, 2010, 10:06 AM

I tried searching for a thread that had the same topic but I guess I'm the ONLY ONE with this problem . If there is a thread like this please correct me and I'll move/delete this one.

Sup dot net! I'm not really new here..I had an account but I forgot my login..haven't been on here in a while . I'm new to bikes though.

When I made my previous account earlier this year I was waiting to take the MSF and now..long story short..I didn't do so well. I FAILED . I was beating myself over about it and eventually went into denial and was like i got a car i don't need a bike. But I stay seein riders everywhere and I feel that spark coming on again. SO..I need one or two tips that I can take with me THIS TIME when I go for the MSF again.

When I was taking the MSF my BIGGEST motherf*ckin problem was stalling the damn thing. I could never find that sweet spot to shift perfectly and keep on going. Everytime I would pull the clutch, shift, throttle (while letting go of the clutch slowly) the bike would lurch and turn off. Frustrated me so bad.

I'm a little short so maneuvering (sp?) was a little tricky. And we were on buell blasts..if that helps at all. Buell blasts are legit though. Nice, nimble little bikes..

So if any experienced/seasoned riders can give me some insight..that'd be of HUGE benefit. The tight corners and weaving..I think I've gotten down..it's just that GODDAMN STALLING ISSUE!

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Give her more gas.
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Did you ever feel the "friction zone"? If not, say you need some extra time on that drill.


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Did you ever feel the "friction zone"? If not, say you need some extra time on that drill.
Lol I didn't really pay attention to the friction zone. To be honest I was paying more attention the cones.. And yes I definitely need to clock in more hours on it. Where do you usually feel it? People have told me it's around when you first pull in the clutch. But my instructors were saying to pull it in all the way...idk.


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Give her more gas.
Oh yea giving it gas helped a TON! But that was only when I didn't have any cones or obstacles in front of me..I wasn't afraid to go fast then. But when you only have like 40 or so feet to accel, upshift, accel, and then downshift and then skid break..I stalled almost everytime. I didn't wanna give it anymore gas than it already had cuz I was approaching the skid pad pretty fast..

How would you shift in a tight spot?

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I didn't wanna give it anymore gas than it already had cuz I was approaching the skid pad pretty fast..

How would you shift in a tight spot?
You sure you were going fast enough? 2nd gear, and maybe 3rd on those things shouldn't stall at 25mph.
For slow tight (figure 8's) turns just rev and don't let the clutch all the way out. You should drag the rear brake a little as well. The motor rotation will act like a gyroscope to help keep the bike upright. Using the rear brake, which has less power than the front, will keep your speed down. Don't use the fronts.


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You sure you were going fast enough? 2nd gear, and maybe 3rd on those things shouldn't stall at 25mph.
For slow tight (figure 8's) turns just rev and don't let the clutch all the way out. You should drag the rear brake a little as well. The motor rotation will act like a gyroscope to help keep the bike upright. Using the rear brake, which has less power than the front, will keep your speed down. Don't use the fronts.
Hmm..not really sure how fast I was going.. I think most of time was the bike stalling and me trying to turn it back on while it was just coasting heh. I think that was why it felt like i was fast approaching the pad with little accomploshed. There were times when I did it perfectly..mostly thanks to the bike already in motion instead of coming off a stop (personal pref?). It always happens when I'm shifting up to 2nd.

THE REAR BRAKE! DAMN..I kept using the fronts (instinct). The instructors tend to emphasize the fronts a little too much.. Thanks though! I'll practice a little more this afternoon.

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October 10, 2010, 11:09 AM

sounds like your shifting when you don't need too. if it stalls when you go into a higher gear then you need to be going faster for that gear.

more gas, less shifting.


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if it stalls when you go into a higher gear then you need to be going faster for that gear.

more gas, less shifting.
Alright. Thanks that was pretty straightforward (+1); I'll research the ranges for each gear..hopefully I get it right today. damn..i LOVE .net

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Go learn how to drive a manual transmission car first. Then it will be really easy.


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Go learn how to drive a manual transmission car first. Then it will be really easy.
I know how to drive manual. It's probably cuz I'm not familiar with clutch and throttle with my hands yet.. But you're right if i've never driven a manual before i can see how much harder it'd be for me lol thanks.
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Are you stalling with starting from a stop? Or when shifting to a higher gear?


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Are you stalling with starting from a stop? Or when shifting to a higher gear?
Starting from a stop..100%.

I never stalled once when shifting to a higher gear (or downshifiting to a lower) once the bike was in motion.
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Starting from a stop..100%.

I never stalled once when shifting to a higher gear (or downshifiting to a lower) once the bike was in motion.
If your stalling when starting out then you need to learn how to modulate the clutch lever more. You can actually get a bike rolling without feeding any gas if you have good clutch control and know how to slip it out slowly.

It's all in the clutch. Slip it slowly while feeding throttle, if you feel it start to stall or take off too quickly then pull it in just enough but not all the way.

I thought you were having trouble when shifting too a higher gear, so nevermind my first post.


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Hahaha very creative. When I was using my previous account I remember reading alot of hot debates on these forums. Most of them were about "beginner" bikes and such. This forum is legit though. Everyone is nice, respectful, and very helpful.
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