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Looks like Honda is starting to understand SM folks
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Looks like Honda is starting to understand SM folks - August 7, 2007, 08:04 AM

http://www.hmmoto.it/ita/scheda.asp?idFam=3&idProd=68

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Is Honda doing that or just the local shop?
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HM Honda is a factory-supported tuner of Honda racebikes. I don't know if they are a owned-subsidiary of Honda, or if it is run independently however.

Still not sure why Honda doesn't have a street legal factory supermoto.


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HM Honda is a factory-supported tuner of Honda racebikes. I don't know if they are a owned-subsidiary of Honda, or if it is run independently however.

Still not sure why Honda doesn't have a street legal factory supermoto.
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While not exactly Honda - what they do is usually directed by Honda and they benefit by being ahead of the curve... Honda has a factory SM - it's the fmx650 built around the Dominator/NX650 (air cooled 650 very close to the xr650l) but it's EU only and a street bike - it's no where near a race bike (personally it's barely a SM).

Many large manufacturers will got to a speciality shop to try out special projects... I remember a italian place _ Numero Tre got some nice publicitiy by creating a naked version of the Triumph TT600 called "baby speed" or something close - it got enough attention that Triumph released the Speed Four the following year.

CRF450's are a nice platform for SM race bikes .... SM is getting more attention overseas so it's the same premise as "baby speed".. If it becomes a popular seller - Honda will be ready with a production version...

It's a way for the big manufacturers to see if a specific bike or style will sell without having to make a big commitment as by law - a manufacturer has to supply parts for 7 years for any production bike (I think its 7 years after the last model, but it's at least 7 years minimum) - even if it only produced for one year.


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Maybe this will become reality:

This looks like a really bad chop with a Suzuki SV motor.

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To me, SM is supposed to be light, low maitenance, and offer good performance. As far as I know, there is no such thing right now. (except maybe 625SMC) I hope that Honda comes out with something that fulfills these 3 criteria.
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LOL..... The pic from Raptors and Rockets - with a VTR 1000 Superhawk engine has been around for 18 months... I had hoped that with the Hypermotard going into production that Honda would make it.. I was hoping that Honda would repeat history again, ie the VTR was honda's VTwin response to the 900ss... The VTR is even passes the new EU emissions so I thought their might be a chance it would be made - so far I there isn't even a rumour... I waited to hear something - but finally went and got a KTM instead....

Witold, allot of folks agree with you that SM's are supposed to be light and flickable bikes... It's a highly contested issue within the SM world... Some thing that SM's are only supposed to be single cyclinders and don't feel the aprilia 450/550 svx's are True Motards... I don't care what people call em, I still like the idea of SM style - even on big heavier bikes... If Honda brings a big SM - I will get one... I really wanted the Duck HM - but didn't want to go with the 1st year of a new bike.... It still puzzles me that Honda hasn't thrown a E-Start and 17 in wheels on a xr650r - THAT would be a fun bike (friends says the xr650r wouldn't hold up to the usualy honda standards)...


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If Honda could produce something in the 600 range (single) to compete with KTM and Husky that would be a good move on their part. They are so many 450s being sold, they probably say why bother...


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Shoot. I'd even settle for this.
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As much as I love my 'zuk, I'd still give my left nut for a few more ponies... The poor bike is Slooooow with my fatass on it...

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As much as I love my 'zuk, I'd still give my left nut for a few more ponies... The poor bike is Slooooow with my fatass on it...

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it's a not as good as it looks

it's the fmx650 - it's got the air cooled nx650/Dominator air cooled 650cc motor - that's been around for over a decade.....

The XR400 Honda is air cooled

The DrzSM with a fcr carb (basically the E setup) is significantly better than both... However, fwiw there is a guy on smj selling the very same xr400 http://supermotojunkie.com/showthread.php?t=39138


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